Understanding the Formula for the Sum of a Geometric Series

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The discussion clarifies the formula for the sum of a geometric series, emphasizing that the correct expression is a(1/(1-r)) when the series starts at n=0, while starting at n=1 results in a different sum. The confusion arises from the notation, where parentheses are crucial for correct interpretation. The participants confirm that the first term changes depending on the starting index, affecting the overall sum. Additionally, they discuss specific values for a and r, and the implications of different intervals of convergence. Understanding these nuances is essential for correctly applying the geometric series formula.
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For the question, shouldn't the sum be a(1/1-r) since we know lrl < 1 then that rn → 0 as n → ∞? I just don't quite understand why they wrote the sum is a(r/1-r). Is there a specific reason they did this? This is just a regular geometric series right? Is there any difference since the sum starts at n = 1 instead of n =0?
 

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Isn't the first term, which you are calling ##a##, equal to ##r## in that sum?
 
LCKurtz said:
Isn't the first term, which you are calling ##a##, equal to ##r## in that sum?

Isn't ## a = \frac {1}{4}## and ##r = \frac{2}{e}##?
 
Also, for this question, should the interval of convergence be ## [3,3]##? Why exactly did they say ##(-1,1)##?
 

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MathewsMD said:
Isn't ## a = \frac {1}{4}## and ##r = \frac{2}{e}##?
No. a = 1/(2e)

Added: I'm talking about the first series in the image.
 
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MathewsMD said:
For the question, shouldn't the sum be a(1/1-r)
When you write fractions as text on a single line, you need to be careful about parentheses. 1/1-r means (1/1) - r, and not 1/(1 - r) as you intended.

You have it below, as well.
MathewsMD said:
since we know lrl < 1 then that rn → 0 as n → ∞? I just don't quite understand why they wrote the sum is a(r/1-r). Is there a specific reason they did this? This is just a regular geometric series right? Is there any difference since the sum starts at n = 1 instead of n =0?
 
MathewsMD said:
Isn't ## a = \frac {1}{4}## and ##r = \frac{2}{e}##?

In the picture where he has written ##\frac 1 4\sum_{k=1}^\infty r^k## the 1/4 is factored out and the remaining sum has ##a=r=\frac 2 e##.
 
MathewsMD said:
For the question, shouldn't the sum be a(1/1-r) since we know lrl < 1 then that rn → 0 as n → ∞? I just don't quite understand why they wrote the sum is a(r/1-r). Is there a specific reason they did this? This is just a regular geometric series right? Is there any difference since the sum starts at n = 1 instead of n =0?

Of course there is a difference! If you start the sum at ##n = 0## the first term is ##a##; if you start it at ##n = 1## the first term is ##ar##. The two sums differ by ##a##.

Anyway, they didn't write ##a(r/1-r) = ar - ar = 0##; they wrote ##ar/(1-r)##, where parentheses make all the difference in the world.
 
The sum (##\sum_k r^k##) is 1/(1-r) when the summation starts at 0. If it starts at 1, you can do this: $$\sum_{k=1}^\infty r^k =r\sum_{k=1}^\infty r^{k-1} =r\sum_{k=0}^\infty r^k.$$
 
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Fredrik said:
The sum (##\sum_k r^k##) is 1/(1-r) when the summation starts at 0. If it starts at 1, you can do this: $$\sum_{k=1}^\infty r^k =r\sum_{k=1}^\infty r^{k-1} =r\sum_{k=0}^\infty r^k.$$

So if it is instead ## ∑_{n=3}^∞r^n## then this equals ##∑_{n=0}^∞r^{n+3} = r^3∑_{n=0}^∞r^{n}## so then the sum is ##\frac{r^3}{1-r}## correct?
 
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MathewsMD said:
So if it is instead ## ∑_{n=3}^∞r^n## then this equals ##∑_{n=0}^∞r^{n+3} = r^3∑_{n=0}^∞r^{n}## so then the sum is ##\frac{r^3}{1-r}## correct?

Yes. This agrees with the formula ##\frac a {1-r}## since the first term, ##a##, in ##\sum_{n=0}^∞r^{n+3}## is ##r^3##, as is the first term in ##\sum_{n=3}^∞r^n##. It doesn't matter how you write it.
 

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