MHB Understanding the Horizontal Shift in Logarithmic Functions

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The discussion focuses on the horizontal and vertical shifts in the logarithmic function expressed as log 3 (x+9) + 2 = y. The initial interpretation suggests a horizontal translation of 9 units left and a vertical translation of 2 units up. However, upon manipulating the equation to log 3 (x+9) = y - 2 and converting to exponential form, it appears to indicate a horizontal shift of 2 units right and a vertical shift of 9 units down. The confusion arises from the interpretation of x+9 as a horizontal shift rather than a vertical translation. Clarification is provided through graphing, demonstrating that the point where x+9 equals 1 results in a shift of the graph to the left by 9 units.
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If we have log 3 (x+9) + 2 = y. It states that we have a HT 9 units left and 2 units up. But if we manipulate that too

log 3 (x+9) = y - 2

And convert to Exp form. This gives me

3^(y-2) = x + 9 or 3^(y-2) - 9 = x

This looks to me more like a HT 2 units right and a vt 9 units down. I don't understand why x+9 is a HT when changing to exp form it looks like your K value (Vertical Translation)
 
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zekea said:
If we have log 3 (x+9) + 2 = y. It states that we have a HT 9 units left and 2 units up. But if we manipulate that too

log 3 (x+9) = y - 2

And convert to Exp form. This gives me

3^(y-2) = x + 9 or 3^(y-2) - 9 = x

This looks to me more like a HT 2 units right and a vt 9 units down. I don't understand why x+9 is a HT when changing to exp form it looks like your K value (Vertical Translation)

Hi zekea!

Lets take a look at this graph.

[desmos]y=log_3 (x+9) + 2 [/desmos]

All of the math you did with transforming the starting equation is correct, but maybe I can help you see why we have a horizontal shift.

Let's start with just $y=\log(x)$. You can plot that in the interactive graph in this post if you like. An easy point on this graph to get is $\log(1)$. This is 0 for any base, meaning $\log_2(1)=\log_3(1)=\log_{\pi}(1)=0$. So on this graph we have the point (1,0). Now what about $\log(x+9)$? When $x+9=1$ or $x=-8$ we get the $\log(x+(-8))=\log(1)=0$. How does this compare to our starting point of $\log(x)$? We get the same y-value when we shift the x-value 9 units to the left.

If you play around with values on the graph you'll see this kind of behavior. Does that help at all? :)
 
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