Understanding the Inconsistencies of Imaginary Numbers

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the inconsistencies encountered when dealing with the square root of complex numbers, specifically the expression $$\sqrt{-i^2}$$. Participants explore the implications of using square roots in the context of complex numbers, addressing both theoretical and conceptual aspects.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents two different approaches to calculating $$\sqrt{-i^2}$$, leading to conflicting results of 1 and -1.
  • Another participant suggests that both results are valid since a square root can yield both positive and negative answers.
  • A third participant references an article that discusses complexities in the behavior of square roots in the context of complex numbers, indicating that the first approach is correct.
  • Some participants argue that the property $$\sqrt{a} \sqrt{b} = \sqrt{ab}$$ only holds when both a and b are nonnegative, challenging the second approach.
  • Others emphasize that the square root function in complex analysis can yield two possible answers, suggesting that the best answer should be expressed as ±1.
  • There is a discussion about the implications of using the '√' notation, which typically assumes a positive answer, and how this can lead to confusion when complex numbers are involved.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the validity of the two approaches to calculating $$\sqrt{-i^2$$, with some agreeing that both answers are correct while others argue against the second approach. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the application of square root properties in this context.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight limitations in the assumptions made regarding the square root function and its application to complex numbers, noting that the conventional properties of square roots may not apply uniformly in this scenario.

Tian En
I ran into such problem. Not sure if some one can help.

$$\sqrt{-i^2}=\sqrt{-1\times i^2}=\sqrt{-1\times -1}=\sqrt{1}=1$$

I also have

$$\sqrt{-i^2}=\sqrt{-1}\times \sqrt{i^2}=\sqrt{-1}\times i=i\times i=-1$$

Can anyone explain to me the inconsistencies?
 
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My interpretation is that both of these equations are correct since a square root yields both a positive and a negative answer.
 
Tian En said:
I ran into such problem. Not sure if some one can help.

$$\sqrt{-i^2}=\sqrt{-1\times i^2}=\sqrt{-1\times -1}=\sqrt{1}=1$$

I also have

$$\sqrt{-i^2}=\sqrt{-1}\times \sqrt{i^2}=\sqrt{-1}\times i=i\times i=-1$$

Can anyone explain to me the inconsistencies?
NFuller said:
My interpretation is that both of these equations are correct since a square root yields both a positive and a negative answer.
I disagree. The first equation is find, because the radical on the left is essentially ##\sqrt 1##, which is 1.
The second equation is not correct, because the property that ##\sqrt a \sqrt b = \sqrt {ab}## is applicable only if both a and b are nonnegative. This is pointed out in the Insights article that @fresh_42 cited.

In addition, the real square root of a nonnegative number represents a single number, so it's not correct to say that, for example, ##\sqrt 4 = \pm 2##.
 
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Either answer is incomplete. The best answer is ±1. Once complex numbers are allowed, you need to be aware that the square root function always has two possible answers.
Using the '√' notation together with its assumption of a positive answer is treacherous in a context where complex numbers have been introduced. The '√' radical notation implies that the positive square root of a positive number will be used. Use '±√' if you want both to be considered. But once complex numbers are involved, those conventions do not apply.
 
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FactChecker said:
Either answer is incomplete. The best answer is ±1. Once complex numbers are allowed, you need to be aware that the square root function always has two possible answers.
You make a good point, but the first equation starts off with ##\sqrt{-i^2}##. Since -i2 = -(-1) = 1, we are taking the square root of a positive number, and complex numbers are not involved.
FactChecker said:
Using the '√' notation together with its assumption of a positive answer is treacherous in a context where complex numbers have been introduced. The '√' radical notation implies that the positive square root of a positive number will be used. Use '±√' if you want both to be considered. But once complex numbers are involved, those conventions do not apply.
 
Thank you.
 

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