Understanding the Infinite Well Potential for Modeling Electron Bound to Atom

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The discussion centers on the modeling of an electron bound to an atom using the infinite potential well concept. It clarifies that when the potential V(x) is zero for all x, it describes a free particle with no net forces acting on it. The infinite square well is noted as a simplified model that illustrates energy level quantization but does not accurately represent physical systems. For a more realistic depiction of an electron around an atom, the Schrödinger equation should incorporate the attractive potential between the electron and the nucleus, which varies with distance. This approach provides a more accurate understanding of electron behavior in atomic structures.
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I am just trying to get my head round how this models the electron bound to an atom. I don't understand why the potential is zero in the well What physical case corresponds to the condition that V(x)=0 for all values of x?
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If V(x) = 0 for all x (as opposed to only inside the well), then you have a completely free particle, with no net force acting on it. Is that what you were after, or did I misunderstand your question?
 
Yes it was, that is what I thought it would be but then I was wondering why the potential could be zero inside the well as this is meant to represent a bound particle.
Also for a completely free particle, would there be a restriction on the value of n? cheers
 
If the electron is in a box with impenetrable walls, then it's equivalent to being in an infinite potential well, in this case with V=0 inside. That is, the problem describes an electron confined to a finite region of space with the only forces acting during collisions with the walls.

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Reilly Atkinson
 
The infinite square well doesn't really model anything physical. The closest thing that it comes to modeling is a finite quantum well used in semiconductor lasers. However, the square well is basically the simplest test case that you can construct in QM, since it illustrates the quantization of energy levels.
 
What u might be looking for is the schrödinger equation expressed in radius and angle. You can then make a much more accurate picture as you can use the attraction of the electron to the nucleus as the potenital in the from U(x)= -ke^2 /r. This gives a much more accurate picture of an electron round an atom, as the potential isn't infinite or 0, but increases with distance. Hope this helps.
 
Time reversal invariant Hamiltonians must satisfy ##[H,\Theta]=0## where ##\Theta## is time reversal operator. However, in some texts (for example see Many-body Quantum Theory in Condensed Matter Physics an introduction, HENRIK BRUUS and KARSTEN FLENSBERG, Corrected version: 14 January 2016, section 7.1.4) the time reversal invariant condition is introduced as ##H=H^*##. How these two conditions are identical?

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