Understanding the Kronecker Delta Symbol: A_j Explained

[tony873004]

<br /> \begin{array}{l}<br /> \delta _{jk} A_k \\ <br /> \\ <br /> \delta _{jk} A_k = \left( {\delta _{1,1} + \delta _{1,2} + \delta _{1,3} + \delta _{2,1} + \delta _{2,2} + \delta _{2,3} + \delta _{3,1} + \delta _{3,2} + \delta _{3,3} } \right)A_k \\ <br /> \,\,\,\,\,\,\,\,\,\,\,\,\, = \left( {1 + 0 + 0 + 0 + 1 + 0 + 0 + 0 + 1} \right)A_k \\ <br /> \,\,\,\,\,\,\,\,\,\,\,\,\, = 3A_k \\ <br /> \end{array}<br />

But the answer should be A_j. Where did I go wrong?

 

[Pengwuino]

As far as I know, the sum is only over k, not j.

 

[diazona]

That's true, and you also need to recognize that A_k has different values for different terms in the sum.

 

[Pengwuino]

and to further add, the delta will only be 1 when k=j in the sum.

 

[tony873004]

Sorry, I don't understand your explanations. We don't have a textbook for this, only class notes. So I don't even know what "the sum is over k" means. Is it possible to work out the example? Thanks!

 

[phsopher]

The sum is always only over a repeated index, the other indices are fixed. For example suppose A is a 2x2 matrix and x is a 2-vector:

A_{ij} x_j = \sum_{j=1}^2 A_{ij} x_j = A_{i1} x_1 + A_{i2} x_2

 

[Phyisab****]

really your only problem is that you summed over j

 

[tiny-tim]

Sorry, I don't understand your explanations. We don't have a textbook for this, only class notes. So I don't even know what "the sum is over k" means. Is it possible to work out the example? Thanks!

Hi tony873004!

See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Einstein_summation_convention"

 

[HallsofIvy]

<br /> \begin{array}{l}<br /> \delta _{jk} A_k \\ <br /> \\ <br /> \delta _{jk} A_k = \left( {\delta _{1,1} + \delta _{1,2} + \delta _{1,3} + \delta _{2,1} + \delta _{2,2} + \delta _{2,3} + \delta _{3,1} + \delta _{3,2} + \delta _{3,3} } \right)A_k \\ <br /> \,\,\,\,\,\,\,\,\,\,\,\,\, = \left( {1 + 0 + 0 + 0 + 1 + 0 + 0 + 0 + 1} \right)A_k \\ <br /> \,\,\,\,\,\,\,\,\,\,\,\,\, = 3A_k \\ <br /> \end{array}<br />

No. As others have said, the sum is over k, the repeated index, not i.
\delta_{ik}A_k= (A_{i1}A_1+ A_{i2}A_2+ A_{i3}A_3[/itex]<br /> for every i. That is<br /> \delta_{1k}A_k= A_{11}A_1+ A_{12}A_2+ A_{13}A_3= A_1<br /> \delta_{2k}A_k= A_{21}A_1+ A_{22}A_2+ A_{23}A_3= A_2<br /> \delta_{3k}A_3= A_{21}A_1+ A_{32}A_2+ A_{33}A_3= A_3<br /> That is, it is the vector &amp;lt;A_1, A_2, A_3&amp;gt; which can be written as A_i or A_j as they mean the same thing.<br /> <br /> <br /> <blockquote data-attributes="" data-quote="" data-source="" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> But the answer should be A_j. Where did I go wrong? </div> </div> </blockquote>