Kronecker Delta: Order of Indices Explained

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Hi everyone,

I am a new member and would like to ask a naive simple (my guess) question.

I am reading Weinberg’s Gravitation and Cosmology. On page 59, Eq. 2.12.10 therein reads
$$
\begin{aligned}
\left[\sigma_{\alpha \beta}\right]_{\gamma \delta}{}^{\varepsilon \zeta}
&=\eta_{\alpha \gamma} \delta_{\beta}{}^{\varepsilon} \delta^{\zeta}{}_{\delta}
-\eta_{\beta \gamma} \delta_{\alpha}{}^{\varepsilon} \delta^{\zeta}{}_{\delta}\\
&+\eta_{\alpha \delta} \delta_{\beta}{}^{\zeta} \delta^{\varepsilon}{}_{\gamma}
-\eta_{\beta \delta} \delta_{\alpha}{}^{\zeta} \delta^{\varepsilon}{}_{\gamma}
\end{aligned}
$$

I wonder if [tex]\delta_{\beta}{}^{\varepsilon}[/tex] is equal to [tex]\delta^{\varepsilon}{}_{\beta}[/tex]. Would anyone enlighten me?

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Jim Lai
 
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That's because the Kronecker symbol can be read as the mixed components of the "metric" (it's rather a pseudometric) tensor,
$${\delta_{\alpha}}^{\beta}=g_{\alpha \gamma} g^{\gamma \beta} = g_{\gamma \alpha} g^{\gamma \beta} = {\delta^{\beta}}_{\alpha}.$$
 
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vanhees71 said:
That's because the Kronecker symbol can be read as the mixed components of the "metric" (it's rather a pseudometric) tensor,
$${\delta_{\alpha}}^{\beta}=g_{\alpha \gamma} g^{\gamma \beta} = g_{\gamma \alpha} g^{\gamma \beta} = {\delta^{\beta}}_{\alpha}.$$
I thought about writing that, but then I thought ”… of any non-degenerate (0,2) tensor and its inverse really … or wait, it is just the identity map on the tangent space vs the identity map on the cotangent space …” and then I realized I knew too much and left it there 😂
 
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The Kronecker delta is a symmetric tensor, so interchanging the order of the indices doesn't matter. One often sees people omitting the order of indices for symmetric tensors in general, i.e. they're write ##
\sigma^a_b##. Since for symmetric tensors ##\sigma^a{}_b = \sigma^b{}_a##, the order doesn't matter. In general though, the order of indices does matter, and specifying the order of indices is required. For an anti-symmetric tensor ##\sigma^a{}_b## = -##\sigma^b{}_a##, for example.
 
pervect said:
The Kronecker delta is a symmetric tensor, so interchanging the order of the indices doesn't matter. One often sees people omitting the order of indices for symmetric tensors in general, i.e. they're write ##
\sigma^a_b##.
This is incorrect. The Kronecker delta is a (1,1) tensor and if therefore really does not make much sense to discuss symmetries as it only has one index of each type. In a Euclidean space in Cartesian coordinates, it is common to write the metric tensor as ##\delta_{ij}## with both indices down, but this is particular for that coordinate system.

pervect said:
Since for symmetric tensors ##\sigma^a{}_b = \sigma^b{}_a##, the order doesn't matter. In general though, the order of indices does matter, and specifying the order of indices is required. For an anti-symmetric tensor ##\sigma^a{}_b## = -##\sigma^b{}_a##, for example.
None of those relations are viable as they mix covariant and contravariant indices (or, in abstract index notation, mixes vector and dual vector arguments).
 
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