Understanding the Limit of x * cot(x) as x Approaches 0: Explained and Solved

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The discussion revolves around the limit of the expression x * cot(x) as x approaches 0. Participants explore different reasoning approaches and mathematical techniques to evaluate this limit, including graphical analysis, algebraic manipulation, and L'Hospital's rule.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant states that their calculator gives the limit as 1, while they initially reasoned it should be 0 based on the product of limits.
  • Another participant points out that the limit of a product does not equal the product of the limits if one of the limits does not exist, specifically noting the case of 0 multiplied by infinity.
  • A third participant clarifies that the limit of the product of two functions only holds if both individual limits exist, highlighting a common mistake in limit evaluation.
  • One participant provides an algebraic manipulation of the expression, rewriting cot(x) in terms of sine and cosine, and concludes that the limit evaluates to 1 using known limits from calculus.
  • Another participant suggests using L'Hospital's rule as an alternative method to evaluate the limit, indicating that it leads to a limit of 1 as well.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express disagreement regarding the initial reasoning about the limit being zero. There is no consensus on the correct approach, as multiple methods and interpretations are presented, including algebraic manipulation and L'Hospital's rule.

Contextual Notes

Some participants note that the limit of cot(x) as x approaches 0 does not exist, which affects the validity of the initial reasoning. The discussion includes various assumptions and interpretations of limit properties that remain unresolved.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be useful for students and individuals interested in calculus, particularly those grappling with limits involving indeterminate forms and the application of limit laws.

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Hi all. I encountered the following problem:

lim x->0 x * cot(x). My calculator gives the value of 1 for this limit, which can be corroborated by looking at the graph of y = x * cot(x).

However, I reason that it should be zero, because:

lim x->0 x * cot(x) = (lim x->0 x) * (lim x->0 cot(x))
= 0 * lim x->0 cot(x)
= 0 (because anything multiplied by zero is zero.)

Clearly, my reasoning is flawed. What is wrong with it? And what is the correct way to do this problem?

Thank you.
 
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uman said:
lim x->0 x * cot(x) = (lim x->0 x) * (lim x->0 cot(x))

In general, [tex]\lim_{x\to a} f(a)g(a) \neq (\lim_{x\to a} f(a)) (\lim_{x\to a} g(a))[/tex]

For example, as x approaches zero, (x/x) approaches 1. If you split it like you did, we get zero times infinity. Clearly "anything multiplied by zero is zero." does not hold.
 
it's as Gib Z says, but just so you are clear, lim fg = limf limg IF limf and limg both exist, and the same goes for sums, lim(f + g) = limf + limg if both limf and limg exist, this is a common mistake. so think about this so you don't make it again
 
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uman said:
Hi all. I encountered the following problem:

lim x->0 x * cot(x). My calculator gives the value of 1 for this limit, which can be corroborated by looking at the graph of y = x * cot(x).

However, I reason that it should be zero, because:

lim x->0 x * cot(x) = (lim x->0 x) * (lim x->0 cot(x))
= 0 * lim x->0 cot(x)
= 0 (because anything multiplied by zero is zero.)
That statement is wrong: 0 multiplied by [itex]\infty[/itex] is not 0! It is correct that 0 multiplied by any real number is 0 but that limit is not a real number. The others said that "lim x->0 cot(x)" does not exist which is better wording for the same thing.

Clearly, my reasoning is flawed. What is wrong with it? And what is the correct way to do this problem?

Thank you.

cot(x)= cos(x)/sin(x). x cot(x)= x cos(x)/sin(x)= (x/sin(x))(cos(x)). It is proved in Calculus that [itex]\lim_{x\rightarrow 0} sin(x)/x= lim_{x\rightarrow 0}x/sin(x)= 1[/itex]. Since cos(x) is continuous and cos(0)= 1, the limit of x cot(x)= 1.
 
You can use L'Hospital's rule for x/tan(x) goes to 1/(secx)^2 upon derivation top and bottom, which goes to 1 as x goes to 0.
 
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Thanks a million, both of you!
 

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