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∃x∀y∀z[(F(x, y)∧G(x,z)) → H(y,z)]
The discussion revolves around the logic of quantified statements, specifically focusing on the negation of implications within logical formulas. Participants explore the equivalence of various logical expressions and the correct application of logical laws. The scope includes mathematical reasoning and technical explanations related to formal logic.
Participants exhibit disagreement on the correct application of logical laws and the formulation of equivalent expressions. There is no consensus on the final form of the logical expressions, and multiple competing views remain throughout the discussion.
Some participants note that the original problem may not be well-posed, and there are unresolved issues regarding the balance of parentheses in the proposed formulas.
Evgeny.Makarov said:The negation of $A\to B$ is $A\land\neg B$ and not $\neg A\to\neg B$. In fact, it is not entirely correct to say "the negation" because each formula has infinitely many formulas equivalent to it. For the same reason, the original problem is not well-posed. As it is stated now, it is enough to add $\neg$ to the beginning the formula.
No. For one, this formula has unbalanced parentheses.stan1992 said:≡(∀x)(∃y)(∃z)[¬F(x,y)VG(x,z))∧H(y,z)]
Would this be it?
Evgeny.Makarov said:No. For one, this formula has unbalanced parentheses.
You should apply the law about the negation of an implication that I wrote more carefully.
Evgeny.Makarov said:The problem is in finding an equivalent formula for $\neg((F(x, y)\land G(x,z))\to H(y,z))$. I stated that $\neg(A\to B)\equiv A\land\neg B$. Please compare two formulas:
\begin{align}
&\neg((F(x, y)\land G(x,z))\to H(y,z))\\
&\neg(A\to B)
\end{align}
What should be substituted for $A$ and $B$ so that these formulas become equal, character-by-character? After you determine this, please write what $A\land\neg B$ looks like for those concrete $A$ and $B$.
This is correct.stan1992 said:≡(∀x)(∃y)(∃z)[(F(x,y)∧G(x,z))∧¬H(y,z)]