Understanding the Meaning of \delta W

  • Context: Graduate 
  • Thread starter Thread starter gulsen
  • Start date Start date
Click For Summary
SUMMARY

The symbol \(\delta W\) represents an infinitesimal change in work, primarily used in the context of classical mechanics and variational calculus. It is distinct from \(\Delta W\), \(dW\), and \(\partial W\), as it often denotes the variation of a quantity in the framework of the Lagrangian mechanics. The notation does not have a standard mathematical definition and is context-dependent, frequently appearing in discussions of the Least Action Principle and the calculus of variations. Understanding \(\delta W\) requires familiarity with functionals and their derivatives, particularly in relation to paths in configuration space.

PREREQUISITES
  • Understanding of classical mechanics concepts, particularly Lagrangian mechanics.
  • Familiarity with the calculus of variations and functionals.
  • Knowledge of the Least Action Principle and its implications.
  • Basic understanding of differential notation in mathematics.
NEXT STEPS
  • Research the Least Action Principle and its applications in physics.
  • Study the calculus of variations, focusing on functionals and their derivatives.
  • Learn about the differences between various differential notations: \(\Delta\), \(d\), \(\partial\), and \(\delta\).
  • Explore resources on Lagrangian mechanics to see practical applications of \(\delta W\).
USEFUL FOR

Students and professionals in physics, particularly those studying classical mechanics, variational calculus, and mathematical physics. This discussion is beneficial for anyone looking to deepen their understanding of the notation and concepts surrounding infinitesimal changes in work.

gulsen
Messages
215
Reaction score
0
I know \Delta W, dW, \partial W. But what does \delta W exactly mean? How does it differ from the previous ones?
 
Physics news on Phys.org
Is that the Dirac delta? Where have you seen the symbol?
 
Of course it's not Dirac delta.
Classical mechanics book. It's somekind of infintesimal change in work.
 
gulsen said:
Of course it's not Dirac delta.
Classical mechanics book. It's somekind of infintesimal change in work.
Okay, whatever. What does this classical mechanics book say about it? How is it used differently compared to the first delta symbol in your original question?
 
gulsen said:
Of course it's not Dirac delta.
Classical mechanics book. It's somekind of infintesimal change in work.
Then ask in a physics forum, not mathematics.
 
HallsofIvy said:
Then ask in a physics forum, not mathematics.
It's mathematical operator.
Replace the W with something else if you like. Satisfied?
 
berkeman said:
Okay, whatever. What does this classical mechanics book say about it? How is it used differently compared to the first delta symbol in your original question?
Bump...
 
The VARIATION of a quantity W is very often written as \delta{W}
 
berkeman said:
Bump...

Whoops! Sorry, I didn't notice your post. Really sorry!
That notation pops-up in many places, especially in Lagrangian. I've had a quick look at wikipedia, and found http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lagrangian" (at the bottom of the page). I just though this a famous-to-all notation.

I had this somewhere in my after reading https://www.physicsforums.com/showpost.php?p=949279&postcount=15" of Clasius2. I was actually looking for a rigorous definition of it, from the standpoint of a mathematician.
 
Last edited by a moderator:
  • #10
That notation falls into the category of symbolism which is defined as you go. Different authors will use it in different ways. It does not have a standard mathematical definition, being a parameter of a physical system which should be defined or clear from context when it is used.

In the link to the Lagrangian you provided it is used to state the "Least action principle". To understand it's meaning you will need to research that term since the author of the article assumes you know about that. So when you understand least action principle then you will understand how it is used in that context.
 
  • #11
It stands for the G^ateaux derivative of the action integral.

Daniel.
 
  • #12
It's the differential of a functional.

You have a "functional", a function defined on a space of functions (paths in configuration space). This function assigns to each path, a real scalar, the work associated with that path. Remember with ordinary derivatives, you look at the displacement dy resulting from an infinitesimal dx. There's an analagous concept with functionals, the infinitesimal \delta W associated with an infinitesimal change in path \,\delta J (or whatever notation you use). Look it up in whatever resource you have available on Calculus of Variations.

In this case I do not think it refers to the action integral, that is usually notated by S and the differential \delta S.
 

Similar threads

  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
11K
  • · Replies 20 ·
Replies
20
Views
2K
  • · Replies 10 ·
Replies
10
Views
3K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
2K
  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
2K
  • · Replies 25 ·
Replies
25
Views
4K
  • · Replies 10 ·
Replies
10
Views
2K
  • · Replies 4 ·
Replies
4
Views
1K
  • · Replies 4 ·
Replies
4
Views
2K
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
2K