Understanding the product topology

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The discussion centers on the equivalence of the product topology T1 on metric spaces (X, dx) and (Y, dy) and the topology T2 induced by the metric d((x1,y1),(x2,y2)) = max(dx(x1,x2),dy(y1,y2). The user seeks clarification on demonstrating that the basis opens of T1 are unions of basis opens of T2 and vice versa. They successfully outline the proof for T1 implying T2 but struggle with the reverse implication, particularly in visualizing open balls in the context of R² under the given metric. The conclusion reached is that open balls in this metric form a "cross" shape rather than circular forms.

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I am having some trouble visualising the following problem and I hope someone will be able to help me:

Let (X, dx) and (Y,dy) be metric spaces and consider their product topology X x Y (T1) and the topology T2 induced by the metric d((x1,y1),(x2,y2)) = max(dx(x1,x2),dy(y1,y2)) so the maximum of their respective metrics.

I have to show that the topologies are the same. I understand that I have to show that the basis opens of T1 should be unions of basis opens of T2 and vice versa.

T1 => T2 is not giving me a hard time: If (x,y) is in U x V, with U open in X and V open in Y, there exist open balls respectively for x in U and for y in V. The minimum of these radii give a ball for (x,y) in U x V. I know that this is the way and I know how to write it down mathematically correct but I am not sure how to conclude that U x V is in T2 now.

T2 => T1 is giving me more struggles. I can create an open ball around (x0,y0) but then I can't visualise the path my solution should follow.

If someone could give me some advice, I would be very grateful!
 
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What do open balls in ##(X\times Y,d)## look like? For example, what do the open balls look like in ##\mathbb{R}^2##?
 
Thanks for replying! In R2 I could just visualise them as circles around a point (x,y) right?
 
No, not with this metric.
 
I really don't see it. Of course the metric maps R x R ---> R, for example the distance between (1,2) and (2,4) would be 2 but I don't know how to "draw" it. This is the part where I need a hint.
 
Oh I think I should think about the set of all elements of R2 that have fixed distance from (x0,y0) and draw that right?
 
What are the points a distance of 1 away from (0,0)?
 
{(a,1), (1,b), (c,-1), (-1,d)} with a,b,c,d smaller or equal to 1?
ABsolute value!
 
So what figure does that form if you draw it?
 
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Two line segments of length 2, a "cross"
 

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