Understanding the Propagator in Quantum Field Theory

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The discussion revolves around the concept of the propagator in Quantum Field Theory, specifically examining the expression <0|\varphi(y)\varphi(x)|0> and its implications for understanding particle propagation. Participants explore the theoretical underpinnings and interpretations of this expression, focusing on its role in describing transitions between quantum states and the notion of propagation in this context.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant proposes that the expression <0|\varphi(y)\varphi(x)|0> can be viewed as a transition amplitude between one-particle states created at positions x and y, questioning the concept of propagation in this framework.
  • The same participant suggests that the annihilation of a one-particle state at position y implies that the particle must have traveled from position x to y, thus linking this travel to the idea of propagation.
  • Another participant offers an alternative perspective, defining the propagator in terms of the operators \psi and \psi^\dagger, explaining that it measures the probability amplitude of a particle evolving from one position to another over time.
  • This participant notes that the absence of time arguments in the original expression may contribute to confusion, emphasizing that including time is crucial for understanding the propagator's role in state transitions.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing interpretations of the propagator and its implications for particle propagation. While one perspective emphasizes the travel of particles between states, another focuses on the mathematical formalism and time evolution, indicating that the discussion remains unresolved with multiple competing views.

Contextual Notes

There is a lack of consensus on the interpretation of the propagator and its relationship to particle propagation, with participants highlighting different aspects of the mathematical framework and its implications. The discussion also reflects uncertainty regarding the role of time in the expressions being analyzed.

Neitrino
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Hello PF :)
Let me for the moment consider just <0|[tex]\varphi(y)\varphi(x)[/tex]|0> as a propagator (instead of commutator of the fields)... and so in this expression evolves only <0|aa[tex]^{+}[/tex]|0> part.
Now my question is:

1) We can consider this expression as <0|a vector multiplied by a[tex]^{+}[/tex]|0> which is <1|1> so this is a transition aplitude that one "one-particle state" will go to another "one-particle state" but I don't understad the idea of propagation in such treatment...
a)One-particle is created at x position - this is one quantum state
b)One-particle is created at y position - this is another quantum state
and multiplication of these quantum states I appreciate as a propagator?

2) We can consider above expression as multiplication of <0 vector by aa[tex]^{+}[/tex]|0> vector where aa[tex]^{+}[/tex]|0> is creation of particle at x position =|1> and death of this one-particle state at y position again giving me the vacuum.
So since the annihilation of already born one-particle state happens at y position I should assume that this one-particle state SHOULD TRAVEL to y position where it is annihilated by "a" (basically if "something" is annihilated "somewhere" this "something" should first reach that "somwhere" place)and this travel corresponds to propagation of particle from x to y?

Is my undersyanding correct ? If my understanding is correct I can't apply the same logic to my 1) treatment.

Thanks a lot
 
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Both of your perspectives are equivalent. A maybe easier to understand definition is this:
[tex] G(x,t;x',t') = \langle 0 | \psi(x,t) \psi^\dagger(x',t') |0 \rangle[/tex]

The operator [tex]\psi^\dagger(x',t')[/tex] creates a particle in the vacuum state at position x' and time t'. Then the operator [tex]\psi(x,t)[/tex] attempts to destroy a particle at position x and time t. So what the propagator really measures is that if a particle at x',t' is allowed to time evolve for time t-t', what is its probability amplitude for being at x? The idea being that the time evolution operator may cause the particle which starts localized at x' to "spread out."

Your confusion might be because you've left off the time arguments. If you have your operators at the same time, then [tex]\langle 0 | \varphi(y) \varphi^\dagger(x) |0 \rangle[/tex] is the projection of your state x onto state y, and is really just testing their orthogonality.
 

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