Understanding the Quadratic Formula: Why the Negative Root is Not Considered

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The discussion centers on the application of the quadratic formula in solving the cubic equation x^3 - 4x^2 + 4x + 2 = 0. Participants clarify that both positive and negative roots can be used in calculations, leading to valid solutions. The focus is on why only the positive root is initially considered, with the understanding that both roots ultimately yield the same results. The conversation also highlights the relationship between the roots and their impact on the final value of x. The importance of exploring all roots for comprehensive solutions is emphasized.
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Please see the method of solving the equation x^3 -4x^2 + 4x +2 = 0 from the attached.
In the red brackets,can anyone explain why the negative root is not involved in the calculation?
by the quadratic formula,
z = [y±√(y^2 - 4k)]/2
so why only y+√(y^2 - 4k) is considered?
and in the second bracket,again,why the another root of u ,(-1/27)(-35 - 3√129),is not used?
Both roots are negative.
Thx.

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hi davon806! :wink:
davon806 said:
In the red brackets,can anyone explain why the negative root is not involved in the calculation?

and in the second bracket,again,why the another root of u ,(-1/27)(-35 - 3√129),is not used?

you can use the "negative" root in either or both cases, and it should give the same result in the end …

have you tried it? :smile:
 
As there are 2 solutions of z and 2 solutions of u,
there are 4 possible answers for x
z = [y ± √(y^2 - 4k)]/2 , u = 1/27(-35 ± 3√129)
if both of the signs are +,or both signs are -,the value of x would be:
x = 4/3 - 4/[3(35-3√129)^(1/3) - 1/3(35-3√129)^(1/3)]
if z = [y+√(y^2 - 4k)]/2 and u = (-35-3√129)/27 ,
x = 4/3 - 4/[3(35+3√129)^(1/3) - 1/3(35+3√129)^(1/3)]

What's wrong?Thx.
 
hi davon806! :smile:
davon806 said:
x = 4/3 - 4/[3(35-3√129)^(1/3) - 1/3(35-3√129)^(1/3)]
if z = [y+√(y^2 - 4k)]/2 and u = (-35-3√129)/27 ,
x = 4/3 - 4/[3(35+3√129)^(1/3) - 1/3(35+3√129)^(1/3)]

ah, but 1/(35-3√129) = (35+3√129)/64 :wink:
 

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