Understanding the Relationship Between a Function and Its Inverse

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on the relationship between a function and its inverse, specifically exploring whether they are mirror images along the line y=x. Participants examine this concept through definitions, geometric interpretations, and implications for higher mathematics, including calculus.

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  • Conceptual clarification
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  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants question whether a proof exists that functions and their inverses are mirror images along the line y=x and if such a proof extends beyond high school mathematics.
  • It is suggested that using the definition of an inverse function and applying it to a general function y=f(x) could clarify the mirror image concept.
  • One participant proposes a geometric interpretation involving projecting points from the graph of a function across the line y=x to visualize the inverse function.
  • Another participant defines sets A and B to illustrate that if (r1, r2) is in set A, then (r2, r1) must be in set B, linking this to the concept of inverse functions.
  • Some participants provide examples of specific functions and their inverses, noting that they appear as mirror images across the line y=x, but question if this is universally applicable.
  • A later reply emphasizes that the relationship between a function and its inverse can be understood through the interchanging of x and y values, reinforcing the mirror image concept.
  • One participant mentions that while the mirror image concept is commonly presented in textbooks, its significance may diminish in advanced studies of calculus.
  • Another participant discusses how viewing functions and their inverses can provide different perspectives on calculating values, particularly in the context of integration.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying levels of understanding and agreement regarding the mirror image concept. While some find the geometric interpretation compelling, others question its broader applicability and relevance in advanced mathematics. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the necessity and implications of proving this relationship.

Contextual Notes

Some limitations include the reliance on specific definitions of functions and inverses, as well as the potential for misunderstanding the geometric implications without a formal proof. The discussion also touches on the transition from precalculus to calculus concepts without resolving the mathematical steps involved.

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Prove that a function and its inverse are mirror images along the line ##y=x##
I could only verify this for a few elementary functions. Does a proof exist? Does it go beyond the realms of high school mathematics?
Many thanks.
 
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brotherbobby said:
TL;DR Summary: Prove that a function and its inverse are mirror images along the line ##y=x##

I could only verify this for a few elementary functions. Does a proof exist? Does it go beyond the realms of high school mathematics?
Many thanks.
It becomes more obvious if you write a function ##f\, : \, X\longrightarrow Y\, , \,x\longmapsto y=f(x)## as subset of ##X\times Y,## namely ##f=\{(x,y)\in X\times Y\,|\,y=f(x)\}.## With this notation, ##f^{-1}## becomes ##f^{-1}=\{(y,x)\,|\,f^{-1}(y)=x\}.##

"... mirror the image (graph) at the line ##y=x## ..." means exchanging ##x## and ##y.##
 
You can do it with high school math. As @fresh_42 indicates, you should not use examples. You should use the definition of an inverse and apply it to a general, abstract, function y=f(x). What does it mean to say that the function and its inverse are mirror images along the line y=x?
 
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FactChecker said:
What does it mean to say that the function and its inverse are mirror images along the line y=x?
I don't get you. Any hints?
 
brotherbobby said:
I don't get you. Any hints?
Draw the x and y axes, the line ##y = x##, and a one-to-one function ##y = f(x)##. Project every point on the graph of ##y = f(x)## at a right angle through the line ##y =x##, the same distance on the other side.

If the projected graph a graph of the inverse function ##y = f^{-1}(x)##?
 
brotherbobby said:
I don't get you. Any hints?
I would say that sets A and B are mirror images along the line y=x means that ##(r_1,r_2) \in A## if and only if ##(r_2,r_1)\in B##. For a function, ##f## defining set ##A=\{(x,f(x))| x\in \mathbb R\}##, and its inverse, ##f^{-1}## defining set ##B=\{(y,f^{-1}(y))| y \in \mathbb R\}##, what does that mean?
 
PeroK said:
Draw the x and y axes, the line ##y = x##, and a one-to-one function ##y = f(x)##. Project every point on the graph of ##y = f(x)## at a right angle through the line ##y =x##, the same distance on the other side.

If the projected graph a graph of the inverse function ##y = f^{-1}(x)##?
I copy and paste below the graph of the line ##y = 3x-5## and its inverse ##y = \dfrac{x+5}{3}##

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Yes, one line does look like the mirror image of the other across the line ##y=x##. Is there a reason why should this always be the case?
 
brotherbobby said:
I copy and paste below the graph of the line ##y = 3x-5## and its inverse ##y = \dfrac{x+5}{3}##

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Yes, one line does look like the mirror image of the other across the line ##y=x##. Is there a reason why should this always be the case?
Yes, as mentioned earlier. Assuming the existence of an inverse, we map ##y\longmapsto x## instead of ##x\longmapsto y.## The roles of ##x## and ##y## are simply exchanged.
 
brotherbobby said:
I copy and paste below the graph of the line ##y = 3x-5## and its inverse ##y = \dfrac{x+5}{3}##

View attachment 340061

Yes, one line does look like the mirror image of the other across the line ##y=x##. Is there a reason why should this always be the case?
Yes, because the point ##(x, f(x))## is mapped to the point ##(f(x), x)##, which can be rewritten as ##(x, f^{-1}(x))##. If you'll excuse the loose notation.
 
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brotherbobby said:
Yes, one line does look like the mirror image of the other across the line ##y=x##. Is there a reason why should this always be the case?
That is what the problem asks you to prove. You need to take the answers already given seriously and show that you are making an effort in that direction.
 
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FactChecker said:
That is what the problem asks you to prove. You need to take the answers already given seriously and show that you are making an effort in that direction.
Yes, I got it now. Let me state the problem and again and solve it below.

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The key to the question is - what do we mean by the inverse of a function? If ##y=f(x)## is a function, then its inverse given by ##y=f^{-1}(x)## is a different function, but related to the original by the fact that the new function now maps the original ##y## to the ##x##. So if ##(x,f(x))## is a point in the original function, ##(f(x),x)## is a point in the inverse.
Now what does reflection about the line ##y=x## do? It interchanges the values of a point from ##(x,y)\rightarrow(y,x)^{\text{how?}\Large{\color{red}*}}##. But that is just the inverse of a function where ##y=f(x)##.
Hence we can say that an inverse of a function is the mirror image of the original function about the line ##y=x.##
Please let me know if my reasoning is correct.
Thanks to @PeroK and @FactChecker.

##\Large{\color{red}{*}}## This can be shown using geometry. If ##(a,b)## be one point and ##(b,a)## the other, the slope of the line segment joining them is ##-1##, which makes it perpendicular to the line ##y=x##. The midpoint of the line segment is ##\left(\dfrac{a+b}{2}, \dfrac{a+b}{2}\right)##, which falls on the line ##y=x##. Hence the line ##y=x## is the perpendicular bisector of the line segment joining ##(a,b)\rightarrow (b,a)##, which means one point is a mirror image of the other about ##y=x.##
 
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@brotherbobby, after you have completed this exercise, there's something you should consider. The idea that the graphs of ##y = f(x)## and ##y = f^{-1}(x)## (for an invertible function f) are mirror images of each other across the line y = x is one that is presented in most textbooks on precalculus. However, it's of very little consequence in subsequent studies of calculus, IMO.
What is more important, in my view, is that for a one-to-one function f, the equations ##y = f(x)## and ##x = f^{-1}(y)## are identical. For example, consider ##y = f(x) = \sqrt {x - 1}##. An equivalent equation is ##x = f^{-1}(y) = y^2 + 1##. Note that the domain of f is the set ##\{x | x \ge 1\}## and the range is ##\{y | y \ge 0\}##. The domain of the inverse is exactly the same as the range of the original function, and the range of the inverse is exactly the domain of the original function.
Looking at a function and its inverse in this way lets you see each point on the graph of a function in two different ways. The first (with y = f(x)) lets you calculate the y value in terms of a given x value. The second (using the inverse) lets you calculate an x value in terms of a given y value.

Where this point of view comes into play is in calculus, and specifically in using integration to find the area under a curve. If you're asked to find the area under the graph of ##y = \sqrt{x - 1}## between x = 1 and x = 10, one integral that expresses this area is ##\int_{x=1}^{10} \sqrt{x - 1} ~dx##. Here, the typical area element is vertical, running from the x-axis up to the graph of ##y = \sqrt{x - 1}##.
Another integral that represents the same area is ##\int_{y = 0}^3 (10 - (y^2 + 1))~dy##. In this example, the typical area element is horizontal, and runs from the graph of ##x = y^2 + 1## to the line x = 10##. By the way, both integrals evaluate to the same number, namely 18.

This example might be beyond your present knowledge, but my point is that all this business of reflecting a graph across the line y = x is of little value in courses that follow precalculus.
 

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