Understanding the Relationship Between Spin and Magnetic Moment

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The discussion centers on the relationship between spin and magnetic moment in particles, specifically electrons and protons. It is established that the spin of an electron is opposite in direction to its magnetic moment due to the definitions of magnetic moment (u = Ia) and spin. The magnetic moment is influenced by charge, while spin is not, leading to the conclusion that the spin of a proton aligns with its magnetic moment. The conversation highlights the complexity of these concepts and the need for clarity in understanding their definitions.

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The spin is opposite in direction to the magnetic moment of the electron. Is that because the magnetic moment, u is defined as Ia where a is the area vector and spin is defined with the same direction as if it had components around it that swirl around with the angular momentum being (r)x(v) so is always oppsite in direction to the magnetic moment. So the spin of the proton would always have the same sign as its magnetic moment?
 
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Hello.

I don't understand what is your question... perhaps you can rearrange it a little bit.

So...

pivoxa15 said:
The spin is opposite in direction to the magnetic moment of the electron.

This is an statement.

pivoxa15 said:
Is that because the magnetic moment, u is defined as Ia where a is the area vector and spin is defined with the same direction as if it had components around it that swirl around with the angular momentum being (r)x(v) so is always oppsite in direction to the magnetic moment.

Is this your answer or part of your problem?

pivoxa15 said:
So the spin of the proton would always have the same sign as its magnetic moment?

This seems to be a guess of yours, Isn't it?


If you put it clearer, so we can help :wink:

Regards.
 
The electron has negative charge, the proton positive charge.
Mag mom is proportional to charge. Spin isn't.
 
The key part of my question is

'...spin is defined with the same direction as if it had components around it that swirl around with the angular momentum being (r)x(v) so is always oppsite in direction to the magnetic moment [since as Meir Achuz said, the spin does not take into account the charge].'

The rest is trying to draw a comparison with something that is understandable classically which is the magnetic moment.

So spin is like the area vector of a spinning particle. However in the electron nothing is spinning. But we still give this area vector. This vector is different to the mangetic moment when the charge is negative.

So I have given a go at answering my own question. Is it correct?
 

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