Understanding Wavepacket Spreading in QM

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The discussion revolves around the phenomenon of wavepacket spreading in quantum mechanics, particularly in the context of a free particle like an electron. Participants explore the implications of this spreading, its representation, and the relationship between position and momentum uncertainties over time.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions why a wavepacket spreads over time instead of merely translating, suggesting that if it only translated, momentum could be determined directly.
  • Another participant explains that measuring position introduces uncertainty in momentum due to the uncertainty principle, which leads to the spreading of the wavepacket.
  • It is proposed that the spreading would be observed by both stationary and moving observers, although the specifics would require a relativistic treatment.
  • The flattening of the wavepacket over time is discussed as representing uncertainties in measured variables, which grow according to initial measurement precision.
  • A participant asserts that the momentum wave function is not constant over time, linking this to the statistical nature of spreading and the uncertainty principle.
  • One participant suggests viewing quantum mechanics as a framework for understanding knowledge and measurement rather than as a description of an independent reality.
  • Another participant reinforces the idea that greater initial accuracy in measuring position or momentum leads to greater uncertainty in later measurements.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying interpretations of wavepacket behavior and its implications, with no consensus reached on the nature of the wavepacket's spreading or its representation in different frames of reference.

Contextual Notes

Participants acknowledge the dependence on initial conditions and measurement precision, as well as the need for a relativistic framework for a complete understanding of the phenomena discussed.

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Readers interested in quantum mechanics, particularly those exploring the concepts of wavepackets, uncertainty principles, and the implications of measurements in quantum systems.

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I'm working through the first few chapters of my QM textbook, so I am not yet familiar with the Schrödinger equation.

Consider a free particle, say an electron, moving through free space. I have done the calculations, and concluded that the wavepacket must spread -- that is, get wider. However, this does not make sense to me. How can the wavepacket spread with time? That is, why doesn't the wavepacket just translate?

Then I realized that if the wavepacket just translated, we could determine the particle's momentum from its translation.
My questions:
  1. What does the spreading of the wavepacket with time represent?
  2. Would spreading appear to both an observer at rest and a non-relativistic observer in motion?
  3. Why does the "hump" in the packet flatten out as time goes on? (I know the mathematics, but I'm not sure what it represents.)
  4. Am I right in assuming that the momentum wave function \phi(k) is constant with respect to time?

Thanks for your assistance.
 
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1. If you measured the particle's position, then there was some resolution to your postion-measuring apparatus. Due to the uncertainty relation, you will have a minimum uncertainty in the particle's momentum, determined by the precise form of your initial wavefunction and the resolution of your device, and this uncertainty will translate to a spreading of your uncertainty in its location, as time progresses.
2. Spreading would appear to both, though the exact amount would differ, in some way. However, in order to treat this properly you will need a relativistic theory, such as a quantum field theory, not just bare non-relativistic quantum mechanics. The exact field theory will depend on the particle. If it is an electron, then that will be quantum electrodynamics...
3. The flattening out represents an uncertainty in both the variable that you measured and in the variable conjugate to it. These uncertainties will grow with time according to your initial measurement precision.
4. The momentum-space wavefunction is not constant. Based on what I said regarding the statistical spreading and the uncertainty principle, think about why this should be so.
 
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degrees of knowledge

My suggestion is to think about quantum mechanics as a theory that describes what you know and how well you can know it, rather than some reality that is "out there", independent of experiments.
 
So the more accurately you know position or momentum at the beginning, the less accurately you know it later on.

That makes sense...thanks for your explanation!
 

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