Uniform Circular Motion and the Force of a Car on a Bumpy Road

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The problem involves a car traveling over a bumpy road with a constant speed, specifically analyzing the forces acting on the car at two points: a valley (point A) and the top of a hill (point B). The context is uniform circular motion, with gravity acting on the car and the road having a circular shape at point B with a specified radius.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the relationship between the forces acting on the car at points A and B, questioning how gravitational force and normal force interact at these points. There is exploration of the centripetal force equations and the role of normal force in both scenarios.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging with the problem, attempting to clarify their understanding of the forces involved. Some have provided equations for the forces at points A and B, while others express confusion about the normal forces at each point. There is no explicit consensus yet, but the discussion is moving towards a deeper understanding of the concepts involved.

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There is an indication that the participants are working under the constraints of a homework assignment, which may limit the information they can use or the assumptions they can make. The need for clarity on the radius at point A is also mentioned as a potential factor in the discussion.

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Homework Statement


A car, which weighs 1000 N, travels over a bumpy road with a constant speed. Gravity acts. The road at point B is in the shape of a circle with a radius of 100 meters.
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Which one of these statements correctly relates the force of the car on the road at points A (a valley) and B (the top of a hill)?

(a) The magnitude of the force of the car on the road is larger at point A than it is at point B.
(b) The magnitude of the force of the car on the road is larger at point B than it is at point A.
(c) You need to know the road radius at point A to answer this question.


Homework Equations


a = v^2/r^2 = w^2*r



The Attempt at a Solution



I thought at the point A, it's considered as the lowest point of circular path, while
the point B is considered as the highest point.

So, at A Weight is somewhat canceled with the tension(thinking about uniform circular path) but at B weight is added to the tension..

That's why i thought B has larger force than at point A...

What's wrong in my attempt..?

Please help me out here...

Thanks.
 
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At point B, the centripetal force equation is

F_c= mg-N_B

where N is the normal reaction. What is the equation at A?
 
Isn't it F= (N)a - mg at A?

But I'm still confused it seems to me that normal force is the same for both points...

It's not the same, is it?



Thanks for your reply.
 
nahanksh said:
Isn't it F= (N)a - mg at A?

But I'm still confused it seems to me that normal force is the same for both points...

It's not the same, is it?



Thanks for your reply.

So at A, NA= mv2/r +mg

and at B, NB=mg-mv2/r

which one will be bigger?
 
Thanks a lot.
I've got it !
 

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