Uniform Circular Motion - Find Force

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The problem involves uniform circular motion, specifically related to the Bohr model of the hydrogen atom. The original poster is tasked with finding the force acting on an electron in a circular orbit and the centripetal acceleration, but is confused about the role of mass in these calculations.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • The original poster attempts to understand how to calculate the centripetal force without a given mass, questioning whether mass should always be included in such calculations. Other participants clarify that the centripetal force can be found using the mass of the electron, which is a known value.

Discussion Status

Participants are exploring the relationship between centripetal acceleration and force, with some providing clarifications about the necessity of mass in the calculations. The discussion is productive, with guidance offered regarding the known mass of the electron.

Contextual Notes

The original poster notes the absence of mass in the problem statement, which raises questions about how to approach the calculations. The discussion acknowledges that the mass of the electron is typically considered a given in physics problems.

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Hello,
The first part of the problem confuses me, but I have solved the second part.

"In the Bohr model of the hydrogen atom, the speed of the electron is approximately 2.20 x 10^6 m/s. Find (a) the force acting on the electron as it revolves in a circular orbit of radius 0.530 x 10^-10 m and (b) find the centripetal acceleration of the electron."

I don't understand how to find part (a).

In finding part (b), I used the formula for centripetal acceleration which is m(v^2/r). This is kind of confusing because there isn't a mass given, so it seems like the book just disregards the mass and simply divides the velocity(squared) by the radius. In other problems when a mass is given, they will throw the mass in the formula like I have stated above. Is this the correct approach of going about these kind of problems? If a mass isn't given, leave it out, but if it is, use it in the above formula?

So for part (b), my answer came out to be 9.13 x 10^22 N, and the book agrees.

Any help in solving part (a) and possibly explaining my question regarding part (b) would be appreciated. Thank you.
 
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The centripetal accelaration is \frac{v^2}{r}. When you want to find the (centripetal) force you multiply it with the electron's mass. This is F = ma in the radial direction.
 
Ah, okay. That makes sense. Thanks for clearing that up, neutrino.

So in part (a), they are asking for the centripetal force, but to do that we need the electron's mass. If we don't know its mass, how is it possible to find the centripetal force?
 
Generally, the electron's mass is "a given" ~ 9.11 10e-31 Kg. This is known as the electron's rest mass.
 
Understood. Thanks.
 

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