Uniform circular motion problem

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The problem involves a police officer driving through a circular turn with a specified radius and speed, seeking to determine the magnitude and angle of the net force exerted by the officer on the car seat. The context centers around uniform circular motion and the forces acting on the officer.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

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  • Participants discuss the application of hints provided in the problem statement, particularly regarding the identification of horizontal and vertical forces acting on the officer. There is a focus on understanding the relationship between centripetal force and the forces exerted by the officer on the seat.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants questioning the interpretation of forces in different dimensions and the implications of the hint. Some guidance has been offered regarding the need to consider all components of the net force, but there is no explicit consensus on the correct approach to the problem.

Contextual Notes

Participants note potential ambiguities in the problem's wording and the representation of forces in diagrams. There is an ongoing exploration of the implications of weight and centripetal force in the context of the net force calculation.

  • #31
Nathanael said:
FT is the net force right? The magnitude of FT is not 559.98.

Also there are 2 angles against the vertical. The problem may want you to find the smaller of the two angles.
i guess i found it.
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  • #32
Nathanael said:
FT is the net force right? The magnitude of FT is not 559.98.

Also there are 2 angles against the vertical. The problem may want you to find the smaller of the two angles.
thanks again Nathanael!
 
  • #33
No problem. I was going to tell you about the arctan method after you found it your way. The arctan method was the first that came to my mind.
(But the arccos(a.b/(|a||b|)) method is also a very good one to know! It's far more general.)
 
  • #34
i really need to work on recognizing what is the logical next step to take with what information i have. i spend way too much time on a single problem
 
  • #35
Nathanael said:
No problem. I was going to tell you about the arctan method after you found it your way. The arctan method was the first that came to my mind.
(But the arccos(a.b/(|a||b|)) method is also a very good one to know! It's far more general.)
did you find the angle with the arccos method? what values did you use for a and b? i could only get 180degs
 
  • #36
J-dizzal said:
i really need to work on recognizing what is the logical next step to take with what information i have. i spend way too much time on a single problem
It comes with practice. I hope at least that you feel you are getting better and better (even if slowly).

J-dizzal said:
did you find the angle with the arccos method? what values did you use for a and b? i could only get 180degs
I didn't use that method, but it would work. You had the dot product right (62\hat i-mg\hat j)\cdot(0\hat i+\hat j)=-mg but then you are supposed to divide by \sqrt{(mg)^2+62^2}*1 but for some reason you were dividing by mg. That's why in post #30 I said the magnitude of the net force is not mg.

I think it was just a careless mistake, just got to take things slow.
 
  • #37
Nathanael said:
It comes with practice. I hope at least that you feel you are getting better and better (even if slowly).I didn't use that method, but it would work. You had the dot product right (62\hat i-mg\hat j)\cdot(0\hat i+\hat j)=-mg but then you are supposed to divide by \sqrt{(mg)^2+62^2}*1 but for some reason you were dividing by mg. That's why in post #30 I said the magnitude of the net force is not mg.

I think it was just a careless mistake, just got to take things slow.
yep i sure did miss that, thanks for point it out to me though.
 
  • #38
ill be on tomorrow with some statics problems, most likely. hope youre on to help. goodnight. thanks again.
 
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