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The discussion revolves around a probability question involving a weighted die, where the probability of rolling a 6 is four times that of rolling a 1, and the probabilities for rolling numbers other than 6 are equally likely. Participants explore the implications of this setup for calculating the probabilities of various outcomes, including specific numbers and cumulative probabilities.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that if the chance of throwing a 6 is four times that of throwing a 1, then the probability of throwing a 6 could be calculated as 4/6, assuming equal chances for other outcomes.
  • Others argue that the total probability must equal 1, leading to a different interpretation where the probabilities are expressed in terms of a variable x, resulting in P(D1-5) = 1/5 and P(D6) = 4/5.
  • A later reply questions the clarity of the original problem statement, suggesting multiple interpretations regarding how the probabilities for numbers other than 6 are defined.
  • Some participants express uncertainty about the correctness of their calculations and seek confirmation on their reasoning, particularly regarding the cumulative probabilities for rolling at least a 3.
  • Questions are raised about the sum of all probabilities and how they relate to the defined probabilities for each outcome.

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Participants do not reach a consensus on the interpretation of the problem or the calculations involved. Multiple competing views remain regarding the definitions and calculations of the probabilities.

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There are limitations in the clarity of the problem statement, particularly regarding how the probabilities for numbers other than 6 are defined and whether they are equally likely. This ambiguity affects the calculations and interpretations presented by participants.

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G'day,

I've recently been given a probability question to solve and I'm not 100% on my approach towards it.
It goes as follows;

A dice is found to be weighted so that the chance of throwing a 6 is four times the chance of throwing a 1. Chances of throwing numbers other than 6 are equally likely.

a) What is the probability of throwing a 6?
b) What is the probability of throwing a 3?
c) What is the probability of throwing at least a 3?For my approach I'm basically assuming the chance of throwing anything except a six is 1/6, which means the chance of throwing a 6 if 4/6.
So that answers part a) and b), although I feel that the answer is to simple.
And then to answer part c) I just multiply the chances of throwing a 3, 4, 5, 6 independently, and then sum those probabilities. .

Any comments on this approach or help with the question would be greatly appreciated.
 
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G'day,

I've recently been given a probability question to solve and I'm not 100% on my approach towards it.
It goes as follows;

A dice is found to be weighted so that the chance of throwing a 6 is four times the chance of throwing a 1. Chances of throwing numbers other than 6 are equally likely.

a) What is the probability of throwing a 6?
b) What is the probability of throwing a 3?
c) What is the probability of throwing at least a 3?For my approach I'm basically assuming the chance of throwing anything except a six is 1/6, which means the chance of throwing a 6 if 4/6.
So that answers part a) and b), although I feel that the answer is to simple.
And then to answer part c) I just multiply the chances of throwing a 1, 2, 3 and then sum those probabilities. .

Any comments on this approach or help with the question would be greatly appreciated.

What should the sum of the probabilities of all of the possible outcomes be? Is that true in your model?
 
Well initially I thought the probability would be (1/6)*5 + (4/6) => 9/6

The 1/6 being the chance of rolling a 1-5
The 4/6 being the chance of rolling a 6 (It being 4 times more likely)

But then I came up with a more logical answer;

Probability of rolling a 1-5
x = P(D1-5)

Probability of rolling a 6
4x = P(D6)

BUT => P(D1-5) + P(D6) =1

Therefore;
x + 4x = 1
5x = 1
x = 1/5

So we end up with

P(D1-5) = 1/5
P(D6) = 4/5

So my new answers are
part a) (4/5)
part b) (1/5)

For part c) I've come up with

P(D1-2) = 1/5*2
P(D3-5) = 1/5*3
P(D6) = 4/5

P(at least a 3) = P(D3-5) + P(D6) - P(D1-2)
P(D>=3) = 3/5 + 4/5 - 2/5 = 1

I am on the right track with this?
 
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"A dice is found to be weighted so that the chance of throwing a 6 is four times the chance of throwing a 1. Chances of throwing numbers other than 6 are equally likely."

Your question isn't clearly written. There are two ways to interpret these parts.
a) If p1 = a, then p6 = 4a. If the chances of throwing numbers other than 6 are equally likely is taken directly, this means that also p2 = p3 = p4 = p5 = a as well. If this is true, then it is very easy to find a.

b) If p1 = a, then p6 = 4a. If the second statement applies only the the numbers 2, 3, 4, 5, then all you have from that is that p2 = p3 = p4 = p5 = b, and you don't have enough information to find both a and b.

I will guess you mean the first situation, but you need to be clear about it.
 
What should ##P(D_6)## be in terms of ##P(D_1)## ?

What should ##P(D_2)## be in terms of ##P(D_1)## ?

What should ##P(D_1)+P(D_2)+P(D_3)+P(D_4)+P(D_5)+P(D_6)## be?
 

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