Unit Circle Confusion: A Self-Study Challenge?

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The discussion revolves around the use of the unit circle in trigonometric problems, particularly in relation to various trigonometric identities and their derivations. Participants explore the definitions of sine and cosine, the implications of specific angles, and the accuracy of certain documentation regarding these concepts.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that trigonometric identities are preferred over the unit circle for solving certain problems.
  • One participant explains that points on the unit circle can be defined by their coordinates, linking this to the angles and their respective sine and cosine values.
  • A participant expresses appreciation for a derivation related to the angle ##3\pi/2 - x## and its geometric implications.
  • Another participant questions the accuracy of a documentation claim that states ##\sin x = \cos(3\pi/2 - x##, suggesting that it is incorrect for specific values like ##30^\circ##.
  • Concerns are raised about the credibility of certain documentation, with a participant noting that credible sources can sometimes be misleading upon closer inspection.

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Participants express differing views on the accuracy of specific trigonometric identities and the reliability of documentation. There is no consensus on the correctness of the claims made in the documentation discussed.

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Participants highlight potential errors in the documentation regarding trigonometric identities, particularly in relation to the negative signs in certain equations. The discussion reflects varying interpretations of these identities and their derivations.

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People dont use the unit circle for these kinds of problems instead they use trig identities to reduce it.
 
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aronclark1017 said:
Note that any point on the unit circle has coordinates ##(\cos \theta, \sin \theta)##. This is perhaps the simplest way to define sine and cosine in the first place.

The negative y-axis is at an angle of ##3\pi/2##. And the angle ##3\pi/2 - x## is an angle ##x## clockwise from the negative y-axis. From the geometry, the coordinates of that point are ##(-\sin x, -cos x)##. So that:
$$\cos(3\pi/2 - x) = -\sin x, \ \ \sin(3\pi/2 - x) = - \cos x$$
 
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PeroK said:
Note that any point on the unit circle has coordinates ##(\cos \theta, \sin \theta)##. This is perhaps the simplest way to define sine and cosine in the first place.

The negative y-axis is at an angle of ##3\pi/2##. And the angle ##3\pi/2 - x## is an angle ##x## clockwise from the negative y-axis. From the geometry, the coordinates of that point are ##(-\sin x, -cos x)##. So that:
$$\cos(3\pi/2 - x) = -\sin x, \ \ \sin(3\pi/2 - x) = - \cos x$$
the following documentation is saying that sinx=cos(3pi/2-x). In all the former cases reflecting the triangle to come off of the Y axis as you see in 90-x derives the intended value but in this cases is not showing in the this documentation example. See..
Symmetric identities
If we draw a few copies of the triangle, we get:
$$\sin(x)=\cos(90-x)=-\cos(90+x)=\sin(180-x)=-\sin(180+x)=\cos(270-x)=-\cos(270+x)=-\sin(-x)$$
$$\cos(x)=\sin(90-x)=\sin(90+x)=-\cos(180-x)=-\cos(180+x)=\sin(270-x)=-\sin(270+x)=\cos(-x)$$
$$\tan(x)=\cot(90-x)=-\cot(90+x)=-\tan(180-x)=\tan(180+x)=\cot(270-x)=-\cot(270+x)=-\tan(-x)$$
The other three can be derived by taking the reciprocals of these three.

x is easier to type than theta

https://artofproblemsolving.com/wiki/index.php/Proofs_of_trig_identities
 
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the following documentation is saying that sinx=cos(3pi/2-x).
Try with ##x = 30^\circ## and you'll see this is wrong.
 
yes it would appear to be missing the negative. But this documentation seems very creditable. I suppose it doesn't matter much as in this case of derivation of double angle formulas using unit circle.
unit circle double angle identities.webp
 
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Sometimes credible things upon inspection are not so credible. This is the bane of self study students.
 
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