Unitary Time Evolution: Explaining Open Quantum Systems

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the concept of unitary time evolution in quantum mechanics, particularly focusing on the differences between closed and open quantum systems. Participants explore how the density matrix formalism applies to open systems and the implications of measurements and state collapse.

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  • Conceptual clarification
  • Debate/contested
  • Technical explanation

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses confusion about how open quantum systems, which are described by a density matrix that satisfies ##Tr[\rho(t)]=1##, do not adhere to unitary time evolution.
  • Another participant suggests that while the total density matrix for the system and environment may evolve unitarily, the reduced density matrix for the system alone does not, due to tracing out the environmental degrees of freedom.
  • A participant mentions that open system measurements are often described by the Copenhagen/Collapse Interpretation, which involves non-unitary processes.
  • It is noted that the collapse of the wave function preserves the trace condition ##\mbox{Tr}~ \rho=1##, but this condition is weaker than the requirements for unitary evolution.
  • Further clarification is provided that after collapse, the density matrix represents a projection onto the collapsed eigenvector.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants appear to have differing views on the implications of the density matrix formalism and the nature of measurements in open quantum systems. There is no consensus on the interpretation of unitary versus non-unitary evolution in this context.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights the complexity of open quantum systems and the role of environmental factors in quantum measurements, with unresolved questions regarding the implications of tracing out degrees of freedom and the nature of state collapse.

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Hi, I am a bit confused about unitary time evolution, I understand that a closed quantum system can be explained by unitary time evolution which ensures that the probability of all possible outcomes is always 1. But for an open quantum system we can't in general explain it with a unitary time evolution. This is where I get confused, we explain the evolution of an open quantum systems with the density matrix ##\rho(t)##, which must always satisfy ##Tr[\rho(t)]=1##, so my question is, how is this not unitary time evolution? Thanks.
 
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The density matrix may refer to the state of the system+environment which we expect to have a unitary evolution. But when we trace out the environmental degrees of freedom, we are left with a density matrix which describes what we should expect if we have don't have access to the environmental degrees the freedom. So ## \rho_{total} ## has a unitary evolution but ## \rho_{system}=Tr_{environment}(\rho_{total}) ## doesn't!
 
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More often than not open system measurements are described by the Copenhagen/Collapse Interpretation. Collapse is not invertible let alone unitary.
 
Collapse preserves the condition ##\mbox{Tr}~ \rho=1##. This is a much weaker condition than nitarity, which says that ##\rho(t)=U(t)\rho(0)U(t)^*## with a unitary ##U(t)##.
 
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Collapse preserves the condition ##\mbox{Tr}~ \rho=1##. This is a much weaker condition than nitarity, which says that ##\rho(t)=U(t)\rho(0)U(t)^*## with a unitary ##U(t)##.

Indeed, ρ becomes the projection onto the collapsed eigenvector.
 

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