Units analysis for this phase shift problem using a differential equation

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The discussion revolves around the physical interpretation of phase shift in the context of a differential equation related to nuclear scale phenomena. Participants explore the appropriate units for phase shift and the implications of using different measurement systems, particularly in relation to energy and distance in nuclear physics.

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  • One participant questions the physical meaning of phase shift, noting that while it is typically expressed in radians or degrees, they found it to have units of 1/fm in their analysis.
  • Another participant explains that phase shift can be represented in various units, including time, length, or angle, depending on the context of the derivation.
  • A third participant cautions that while a time delay applies uniformly across frequencies, the phase shift is frequency-dependent, suggesting that a general waveform's shape may distort over time due to phase shifts.
  • Another participant points out that the phase shift should be dimensionless as it is an argument of the sine function, questioning the dimensional consistency of the equations presented.

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Participants express differing views on the appropriate units for phase shift and its physical interpretation. There is no consensus on the dimensionality of phase shift or the implications of using different units in the context of the problem.

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There are unresolved questions regarding the assumptions made about the units of phase shift and the implications of using different measurement systems in nuclear physics. The discussion highlights potential inconsistencies in the dimensional analysis of the equations involved.

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I'm doing unit analysis to understand phase shift using a differential equation. That phase shift depends on some constants and a sine function that includes the phase shift. My problem is when I simplify units of constants, I have one unit and not “radians” or adimensional unit. Is necessary expressing that phase in radians, or can I express as I get?
I'm trying to solve an ED numerically, but before to doing it I try to understand the system physically according to nuclear scale. In most books and articles use MeV for energy and mass energy and fm to represent distances and phase shift of wave functions are in radians or degree. But when I analyze the problem I found that phase have 1/fm unit and not radians or adimensional unit. I can "arrange" the expresion using V in MeV fm units but don't make to much sense to me. Someone could explain to me what phase shift means physically?
 

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jhonconnor said:
Someone could explain to me what phase shift means physically?
A phase shift is usually specified mathematically as an angle in radians.
Technicians may convert that to angular degrees, if that is more convenient.

For a wave of period T, a phase shift can be specified as a time, t.
For a wave of wavelength λ metres, a phase shift can be specified as a length.
Those are proportional, to one period, to one wavelength, or to one full cycle.

Phase shift can therefore have units of time, length or angle, depending on how it is specified in your derivation.

If the phase shift was specified by time, t, then;
Phase shift = 2π ⋅ t / T , radians.

In your case, if the shift is specified by, fm = femtometre, a length, then;
Phase shift = 2π ⋅ fm / λ , radians; where λ is also specified in units of fm.
 
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Baluncore said:
Phase shift can therefore have units of time,
Carefull here. A time delay is the same for all frequencies but the phase shift φ for a uniform time delay t will be a function of frequency. So Δφ = fΔt. In practice, a general waveform that's delayed by Δt remains the same shape but becomes distorted (in time) by the same phase shift of Δφ for all frequencies.

I'd hesitate to try messin' with the basics just for the sake of it seeming to make sense. I know that many branches of Physics use their own private set of units for mass, energy etc. but that's just for convenience and relates to the particular measurement method and they all justify what they do for the sake of scales on graphs etc.. But nothing changes fundamentally, (IMO).
 
I'd check if you have copied your first equation correctly. δ must be dimensionless, as it is an argument of sin. But the RHS has dimensions of 1/L.
 
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