Universal gravitation 9- determine the mass of planet Jupiter

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The discussion revolves around determining the mass of the planet Jupiter using the orbital characteristics of one of its moons, specifically its orbital period and mean orbital radius. The subject area is universal gravitation, with references to Kepler's laws and Newton's law of gravitation.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the application of various gravitational equations and laws, including Kepler's 3rd law and Newton's law of gravitation. There are questions about the validity of the calculated mass of Jupiter and whether the approach taken is correct.

Discussion Status

Some participants have confirmed the correctness of the calculations, while others emphasize the importance of using the provided information effectively. There is a suggestion to derive equations from basic principles, indicating a productive direction in the discussion.

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One participant notes a similarity to a previous post regarding the mass of Earth, which may influence the interpretation of the current problem. There is also mention of external resources, such as searching online for the mass of Jupiter, which could affect the focus on the learning process.

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Homework Statement



One of the moons of Jupiter, discovered by Galileo, has an orbital period of 1.44x106s and a mean orbital radius from the centre of Jupiter of about 1.90x109m. From this information, determine the mass of planet Jupiter.

Homework Equations


I have made a list of equations that are relevant for this entire module on universal gravitation. So although there are many of them does not mean that they all apply in this circumstance. The ones relevant to this question will be placed in bold.

Kepler's 3rd law: (Ta/Tb)2=(Ra/Rb)3

motion of planets must conform to circular motion equation: Fc=4∏2mR/T2

From Kepler's 3rd law: R3/T2=K or T2=R3/K

Gravitational force of attraction between the sun and its orbiting planets: F=(4∏2Ks)*m/R2=Gmsm/R2

Gravitational force of attraction between the Earth and its orbiting satelittes: F=(4∏2Ke)m/R2=Gmem/R2

Newton's Universal Law of Gravitation: F=Gm1m2/d2

value of universal gravitation constant is: G=6.67x10-11N*m2/kg2

weight of object on or near Earth: weight=Fg=mog, where g=9.8 N/kg
Fg=Gmome/Re2

g=Gme/(Re)2

determine the mass of the Earth: me=g(Re)2/G

speed of satellite as it orbits the Earth: v=√GMe/R, where R=Re+h

period of the Earth-orbiting satellite: T=2∏√R3/GMe

Field strength in units N/kg: g=F/m

Determine mass of planet when given orbital period and mean orbital radius: Mp=4∏2Rp3/GTp2



The Attempt at a Solution



Tj=1.44x106s
Rj=1.90x109m
G=6.67x10-11

with the equation highlighted above I was able to calculate the mass of Jupiter to be mj=1.96x1027kg

Does this seem like a valid answer? If anyone could check if I did this correctly or if I made a mistake and someone could point it out to me, that would be greatly appreciated! Thank you so much in advance :)
 
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dani123 said:

Homework Statement



One of the moons of Jupiter, discovered by Galileo, has an orbital period of 1.44x106s and a mean orbital radius from the centre of Jupiter of about 1.90x109m. From this information, determine the mass of planet Jupiter.

Homework Equations


I have made a list of equations that are relevant for this entire module on universal gravitation. So although there are many of them does not mean that they all apply in this circumstance. The ones relevant to this question will be placed in bold.

Kepler's 3rd law: (Ta/Tb)2=(Ra/Rb)3

motion of planets must conform to circular motion equation: Fc=4∏2mR/T2

From Kepler's 3rd law: R3/T2=K or T2=R3/K

Gravitational force of attraction between the sun and its orbiting planets: F=(4∏2Ks)*m/R2=Gmsm/R2

Gravitational force of attraction between the Earth and its orbiting satelittes: F=(4∏2Ke)m/R2=Gmem/R2

Newton's Universal Law of Gravitation: F=Gm1m2/d2

value of universal gravitation constant is: G=6.67x10-11N*m2/kg2

weight of object on or near Earth: weight=Fg=mog, where g=9.8 N/kg
Fg=Gmome/Re2

g=Gme/(Re)2

determine the mass of the Earth: me=g(Re)2/G

speed of satellite as it orbits the Earth: v=√GMe/R, where R=Re+h

period of the Earth-orbiting satellite: T=2∏√R3/GMe

Field strength in units N/kg: g=F/m

Determine mass of planet when given orbital period and mean orbital radius: Mp=4∏2Rp3/GTp2



The Attempt at a Solution



Tj=1.44x106s
Rj=1.90x109m
G=6.67x10-11

with the equation highlighted above I was able to calculate the mass of Jupiter to be mj=1.96x1027kg

Does this seem like a valid answer? If anyone could check if I did this correctly or if I made a mistake and someone could point it out to me, that would be greatly appreciated! Thank you so much in advance :)
"Google" the mass of Jupiter.

The problem is similar to an earlier post of yours regarding determining the mass of Earth: https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=613991
 
Correct.
 
I need to use the information provided to answer the question properly...
 
Thank you grzz!
 
... and I agree with the advice given to you by Doc Al in some other post to start from a very small set of basic equations and derive the required equation on the spot.
 
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