The discussion revolves around finding universities that offer PhD programs in Midwifery. Initial searches yielded results primarily from the UK and Canada, with a specific mention of a program at Philadelphia University, which was clarified to be a Post Master certificate rather than a PhD. Participants emphasized the importance of understanding the goals behind pursuing a PhD in midwifery, noting that midwifery is more of a profession than an academic field. They suggested that qualified midwives interested in research might consider related PhD programs in nursing or public health, which could offer relevant training and opportunities. The friend seeking the PhD has significant experience in the field, being 41 years old with 16 years of practice.