Unlocking Binding Energy Solutions for Part C)ii - Tips and Strategies

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The discussion revolves around calculating binding energy and related concepts in a chemistry context, specifically focusing on part c)ii of a homework problem. Participants are exploring unit conversions and calculations involving energy and volume per atom.

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  • Participants discuss the conversion of energy units from kJ/kg to kJ/mol and the implications for calculating binding energy. There are attempts to clarify calculations and unit tracking, alongside questions about the approach to part d)ii.

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Some participants have provided guidance on unit conversions and calculation methods, while others are exploring different interpretations of the problem. There is acknowledgment of potential confusion regarding the substances involved in the calculations.

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Participants note the importance of unit consistency in calculations and the need to clarify which substance is being discussed, as there is a mix-up between mercury and neon. There is also mention of specific values and constants that are relevant to the calculations.

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Homework Statement
Working out how to calculate binding energy
Relevant Equations
l = 1/2Nne
Here is the question:

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Stuck on how to complete part c)ii

Here is what I have done so far as well as trying to answer part c)ii

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Any help would be appreciated! Thanks
 
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37 kJ = 37x103 J.
 
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kuruman said:
37 kJ = 37x103 J.

Oh shoot yes you’re right. I don’t know why I processed it at as mega joules

So doing the following calculation again gives

Binding energy = (2 * 293000) / (6x10^23 * 7) = 1.41x10^-19 J which is closer to the answer but still not right
 
296 kJ/kg. You need kJ/mol.
 
mjc123 said:
296 kJ/kg. You need kJ/mol.

So to convert from kJ/kg to kJ/mol, I must multiply kJ/kg by the molar mass?

I did this and got the following

Binding energy = 2(293000 * 0.20)/(6x10^23)(7) = 2.79... x10^-20 J which is roughly equal to 2.8x10^-20 J

I also got another part that I need help with if you don’t mind

Not entirely sure how to approach part d)ii but I suppose I had done part d) i right
 

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di is right. Not sure what the problem is for dii - find the volume per atom, as you did for Hg.
 
mjc123 said:
di is right. Not sure what the problem is for dii - find the volume per atom, as you did for Hg.

To find volume per atom. I know that 1.0691... x10^-4 moles of Hg is contained in 2x10^-4 m^3.

So to firstly get the volume per mole of Hg, I do ' 2x10^-4 / 1.0691...x10^-4 ' which gives 1.870... volume per mole

Dividing 1.870... by avogrado's constant is '1.870... / 6.022x10^23 = 3.106... x 10^-24 volume per atom
Cube rooting volume per atom number should give the spacing which comes out to be '1.459... x10^-8 m'

Would you agree that these steps are the right way of doing this?
 
Yes, except that you're talking about neon, not mercury.
 
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Yes, except that you're talking about neon, not mercury.

Yes, sorry I got mixed up with the wording somehow
 
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The other thing is that I would be more explicit about tracking units through the calculation. So rather than say "1.870 volume per mole" I would say "1.870 m3 volume per mole"; likewise "3.106 x 10-24 m3 volume per atom". In this case, as you're dealing in m all the time, it's not so critical, but if you're switching between e.g. m and cm, or J and kJ, you can easily make mistakes if you don't keep track of units.
 
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