Unraveling the Mystery of NaCl's Low Solubility Curve

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around the low solubility curve of NaCl compared to other ionic compounds like KCl and NaNO3, specifically examining the relationship between the slope of the solubility curve and the enthalpy of dissolution.

Discussion Character

  • Technical explanation, Conceptual clarification, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions why the slope of the solubility curve for NaCl is much lower than for other ionic compounds.
  • Another participant suggests that the slope is related to the enthalpy of dissolution, referencing standard Physical Chemistry texts.
  • A participant mentions the Van't Hoff equation as a means to understand the relationship between solubility and enthalpy.
  • Further clarification is requested regarding the application of the Van't Hoff equation in this context.
  • One participant explains that a smaller ΔH leads to a smaller rate of change in solubility, noting that NaCl's ΔH is much smaller than that of KCl.
  • A later reply points out a potential confusion regarding the signs in the equation and clarifies that ΔH refers to the enthalpy of dissolution.
  • Another participant clarifies that their earlier statement about the equation's appearance was not meant to imply ignorance of the relationship.
  • A historical reference is made to a quote from H. E. Armstrong, highlighting a past debate on the molecular character of NaCl.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the interpretation of the relationship between solubility and enthalpy, and there is no consensus on the implications of the Van't Hoff equation in this context.

Contextual Notes

Some assumptions about the definitions of enthalpy and solubility may not be fully articulated, and there are unresolved aspects regarding the mathematical expressions used in the discussion.

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Why is Δsolubility / Δtemperature so much lower for NaCl than for other ionic compounds like KCl and NaNO3? (It's solubility curve is almost flat).
 
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Do you know how the slope of the solubility curve is related to the enthalpy of dissolution? This is generally covered in any standard Physical Chemistry text in the chapter on Solutions. Or it may appear in the discussion about Le Chatelier's principle.
 
It doesn't, but I found the Van't Hoff equation and from there it is fairly straightforward.
 
enthropy said:
It doesn't but I found the Van't Hoff equation and from there it is fairly straightforward.
Could you explain further?
 
Sure. Integrating and solving for K, we get [tex]K \alpha e^{\Delta H /RT}[/tex]. Smaller ΔH means smaller rate of change, and NaCl's is much smaller than KCl
 
Close enough (your signs may be off or you use a non-standard sign convention).

I hope you realize that the ΔH here is the enthalpy of dissolution, which is what I was referring to above. And that's why your response "It doesn't" had me a little confused.
 
I dropped the negative sign when typing it here, it becomes [tex]K\proptoe^{\frac{-\Delta H}{RT}}[/tex]
"it doesn't" referred to it's appearance in the text, not my awareness of the relation.
 
Dissolving NaCl?
"Such unjustified aspersion of the molecular character of our most necessary condiment must not be allowed any longer to pass unchallenged."
-- H. E.. Armstrong, Nature, v120, p478 (1927)

He was the last hold-out against ionic theory. :smile:
 

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