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The discussion revolves around the challenges and considerations of transitioning from an electrical engineering background to pursuing a PhD in physics. Participants share their experiences and insights regarding application competitiveness, GPA concerns, GRE scores, and the necessity of additional coursework in physics.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses concern about their GPA being just above 3.0 and questions their chances of admission to a physics PhD program without the physics GRE.
  • Another participant notes that switching to physics for graduate school is possible but can be difficult, requiring significant additional study to catch up on material.
  • Some participants suggest that having research experience could strengthen an application, while others emphasize the importance of solid letters of recommendation.
  • One participant shares their own application statistics and experiences, indicating that they were accepted into two programs despite facing rejections from others.
  • Concerns are raised about the potential need for taking undergraduate physics courses before being eligible for graduate coursework.
  • There is a discussion about the importance of highlighting positive aspects of an application while addressing potential weaknesses.
  • One participant reflects on their indecision and the pressure of achieving academic success, suggesting that understanding personal interests is crucial.

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Participants generally agree that transitioning to physics graduate programs is challenging and may require additional preparation. However, there is no consensus on the specific impact of GPA, GRE scores, or research experience on admissions chances, as opinions vary on the importance of these factors.

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Some participants mention the need for additional undergraduate coursework in physics, the variability of admissions criteria across different programs, and the influence of personal circumstances on application outcomes.

Who May Find This Useful

International students considering a transition from engineering to physics graduate programs, individuals with non-traditional academic backgrounds, and those seeking insights into the graduate school application process in STEM fields.

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well guys, i just found this forum and am hoping you can help me here.

i am intl student with bs in elect eng. but i realized when i entered that program that it wasnt for me n that shd have stuck with my math/physics. i ended up with some sloppy gpa, probably just above 3.0:mad:

but now i want to get back to physics n have already applied to wesleyan university phd physics( yes, they have a phd in physics, pure math, comp sci, etc), (can any of you make suggestions here) and am considering applying to some math/applied math programs too. i am interested in computional physics, chaos theory, etc, and have some experience in programming and high performance computing.

my gre general are: 770q, 680v, 4.0aw. how do u guys evaluate me? i stand a chance w/out the gre physics subject test vis a vis my low gpa?
 
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In general, the switch from anything to physics can be done for grad school. BUT, it is difficult. I have seen people flourish and people fail at it. The people who flourished had to put a lot more time into studying than the other grad students because they were behind in material. Some of them had to take a year and take undergrad classes to help prepare them for the graduate coursework.
 
Can be done... in general your application would be more competitive for a program if you HAD taken the physics GRE, and especially if you had/have some research experience (in engineering internships or research/independent study with a professor).

I agree with Norman in that you may fnd the coursework difficult, especially depending on the university and the background of the other students at the university. But if you can get through core courses, preliminary exams, comprehensive exams... you might then find some of your previous (non-traditional) experience becomes an asset when it come to doing your PhD project.
 
In case it helps, here's what I had for my grad school applications:

3.3 GPA (last two years of coursework)
General GRE: Reading Comprehension 530; Math 740; Writings 4.5
Physics GRE: 620
Research: My junior year I designed and carried out a one semester research project on NMR analysis of epoxy cures, and I did a senior thesis on numerical analysis of electromagnetic waves inside a resonance cavity.

I applied to six physics graduate programs; I got accepted into two of them, one MS program and one PhD program. I got rejected by two others, and I haven't heard back from the last two (guessing I'm on a wait list, but I got into the one I wanted so I don't really care).

Hope this helps you assess your own possibilities.
 
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arunma said:
In case it helps, here's what I had for my grad school applications:

3.3 GPA (last two years of coursework)
General GRE: Reading Comprehension 530; Math 740; Writings 4.5
Physics GRE: 620
Research: My junior year I designed and carried out a one semester research project on NMR analysis of epoxy cures, and I did a senior thesis on numerical analysis of electromagnetic waves inside a resonance cavity.

I applied to six physics graduate programs; I got accepted into two of them, one MS program and one PhD program. I got rejected by two others, and I haven't heard back from the last two (guessing I'm on a wait list, but I got into the one I wanted so I don't really care).

Hope this helps you assess your own possibilities.


arunma, could you list the schools you applied to, and the ones you were admitted to? Yoru stats seem similar to mine...I'm a double major in EE and physics, I will have a 3.49 GPA overall (by the time I apply...so one year before I finish school), 1.71 engineering gpa and 1.92 physics gpa. I will have a little over a full summer (~14 weeks) of full time industry experience (I was in an office environment working for an automotive safety engineering firm), and 3 semesters of research experience (one full time semester and 2 part time semesters). I also plan on having a decent senior project. I am not sure what my GRE scores will look like.

for my senior project I want to build a rocket with a stability feedback control system, GPA tracking, and altimeter parachute deployment system.
 
And chadat, you may have to take a substantial amount of ugrad physics courses before you take grad courses. If you have solid letters of recommendation (perhaps from physics professors) and a convincing letter you have a chance.
 
leright said:
arunma, could you list the schools you applied to, and the ones you were admitted to?

No problem.

Here are the schools I got accepted to:

University of Minnesota - Duluth (MS)
Iowa State University (PhD)

Here's where I got rejected:

University of Minnesota - Twin Cities
University of Wisconsin - Madison

And here's where I haven't heard back from:

University of Iowa
Ohio State University

Hope that helps.
 
leright said:
arunma, could you list the schools you applied to, and the ones you were admitted to? Yoru stats seem similar to mine...I'm a double major in EE and physics, I will have a 3.49 GPA overall (by the time I apply...so one year before I finish school), 1.71 engineering gpa and 1.92 physics gpa. I will have a little over a full summer (~14 weeks) of full time industry experience (I was in an office environment working for an automotive safety engineering firm), and 3 semesters of research experience (one full time semester and 2 part time semesters). I also plan on having a decent senior project. I am not sure what my GRE scores will look like.

for my senior project I want to build a rocket with a stability feedback control system, GPA tracking, and altimeter parachute deployment system.

Wow, how can you have you a 3.49 GPA when you have such low GPA's for your majors?? 3.94 with 1.71 and 1.92 doesn't make sense...
 
NINHARDCOREFAN said:
Wow, how can you have you a 3.49 GPA when you have such low GPA's for your majors?? 3.94 with 1.71 and 1.92 doesn't make sense...

haha, oops...I meant 3.71 and 3.92 for my majors. :D
 
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leright said:
And chadat, you may have to take a substantial amount of ugrad physics courses before you take grad courses. If you have solid letters of recommendation (perhaps from physics professors) and a convincing letter you have a chance.


i don't have recommendations from physics profs, just 3 recs from 3 electrical engineering profs. one was my project supervisor. as for research, the only research i did was my project on RF circuit design, i built a circuit for field strength meter. .the supervisor for this project wrote 1 of my recs, my project was okay so i don't think he'll diss me in the recmy degree is also from a school in west africa--where opportunities for research even in your own major a few and far between.

well, i guess I'm resigned to the fact that I've got pretty slim chance of physics graduate school admissions.
 
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I sense indecision. The holy grail of achievement is interfering with your true interests. It is more important to understand adversity than defeat it.
 
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Chronos said:
I sense indecision. The holy grail of achievement is interfering with your true interests. It is more important to understand adversity than defeat it.

chronos, thanks for your chastisement. it's now or never. wesleyan has received my other documents thru postal mail although somehow they didnt receive the online application and so i must resend it. the decision, could be ready this week or latest next week. maybe this is God's will, so i can have the opportunity to state that I'm ready to take as many undergrad courses as possible to make up--something i failed to state previously

but how do you sense indecision. I'm only afraid that adcom will see my application differently, pehraps accentuate the negatives instead of the positives. which will be bad for me. i want to highlight the +ves as much as possible. but I'm not withdrawing or anything. neither is my interest in physics diminished
 

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