US-China Relations: Should the US Support Taiwan Independence?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on the question of whether the United States should support Taiwan's independence, exploring the implications of such support for U.S.-China relations, economic advantages, and moral considerations. The conversation touches on political, economic, and ethical dimensions of the topic.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants question the rationale behind U.S. support for Taiwan independence, asking how it benefits the U.S. economically given Taiwan's current situation.
  • Others suggest that Taiwan's production of ICS arms is a significant reason for U.S. support.
  • There are references to philosophical and ethical considerations, with some arguing that supporting Taiwan is the "right thing to do," beyond economic interests.
  • One participant raises the point that if the U.S. can tolerate a communist regime close to its borders, it should also accept a democratic country near China.
  • Concerns about cybersecurity threats from China are mentioned, linking them to broader geopolitical tensions.
  • Some participants express frustration over perceived lack of thoughtful engagement in the discussion, emphasizing the need for more substantial opinions.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of views, with no clear consensus on the economic advantages of supporting Taiwan or the moral implications of such support. The discussion remains unresolved, with competing perspectives on the motivations behind U.S. actions.

Contextual Notes

Some participants reference specific terms like "ICS arms" without providing definitions, leading to potential confusion. The discussion also includes varying interpretations of the implications of U.S. foreign policy towards Taiwan and China.

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Exodus, Chapter 23:22, "I will be an enemy to your enemies and will oppose those who oppose you."
 
I don't care about passages from the Bible.

How does helping Taiwan give the U.S. any economic advantage?
 
Taiwan makes ICS arms. good enough reason for me.
 
MotoH said:
Taiwan makes ICS arms. good enough reason for me.


What does ICS stand for and what are ICS arms?
 
"Enemy's Enemy is a Friend" ;)
 
If the United States can have a communist country 90 miles off its coast, why can't China have a democratic country 180 miles off its coast?
 
The key words here are:

ECONOMIC ADVANTAGEIf you guys are unwilling to give any thoughtful opinions, don't bother writing.
 
Nusc said:
What does ICS stand for and what are ICS arms?

A Taiwanese airsoft rifle manufacturer, one of the big 4 left in southwest Asia after the great Chinese airsoft purge of 08
 
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Nusc said:
I don't care about passages from the Bible.
Read it anyway. It isn't religious in nature and is a very good explanation.
How does helping Taiwan give the U.S. any economic advantage?
Taiwan makes good electronics, but I don't think the economic advantage is the primary reason. The cynic in me would say the answer mgb gave is probably the correct one, but the idealist in me would say that we support Taiwan because it is the right thing to do.
The key words here are:

ECONOMIC ADVANTAGE

If you guys are unwilling to give any thoughtful opinions, don't bother writing.
Why are you artificially constraining the thread to ignore most of the answers to the question you asked? Seems illogical to ask a question and then not want to hear the answers. Why did you even bother asking the question?

It's like asking who the greatest football player of all time is, then after people answer, saying - "oh, I meant NFC only."

Anyway, wiki, of course, has an article about this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic_of_China-United_States_relations
 
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Google posted in their blog that they and 30 other companies have been hacked recently in a very sophisticated attack.

Although this is not new. China has hacked US military networks before. I'm not sure if this constitutes war.

And you can't even meet with Dali Lama, someone who never harmed a soul, before being condemned by China.
 
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And you can't even meet with Dali Lama, someone who never harmed a soul,

Watch the Penn&Teller ******** episode titled "Holier than Thou". That changed my view about him.
 

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