US Education - Nearly 1/3 of US HS students will dropout

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The discussion centers around the alarming dropout rate among U.S. high school students, with nearly one-third not completing their education. Participants express concern over the lack of blue-collar job opportunities, which exacerbates the dropout issue, particularly in economically depressed areas. Many students are opting for GEDs instead of traditional diplomas, reflecting a shift in educational priorities. The conversation highlights the psychological factors influencing dropouts, such as family instability and a perceived lack of relevance in education. There are calls for systemic changes, including mandatory high school completion and improved educational engagement strategies. The impact of immigration and the competition from countries like China and India is also discussed, with some expressing skepticism about the U.S.'s ability to maintain its economic dominance. Overall, the dialogue emphasizes the need for a multifaceted approach to tackle the dropout crisis and improve educational outcomes in the U.S.
  • #31
Pengwuino said:
... I mean if you consider the fact that people sue the government by even vaguely promoting some "way of life", what chance does forcing kids into indoctrination sessions have of making it?

Political Will will cut through this, can people really sue the gov't for this ? Maybe we should produce more lawyers instead.

Of course every individual has different abilities, not all will become top notch scientists, however there would be enough technicians so that labor competion will increase and leads to lower salary demands, which then lowers labor cost for companies thus job outsourcing will be lessened.

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  • #32
What Makes a Good High School?
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5372097

Weekend Edition Sunday, April 30, 2006 · How can U.S. high schools do a better job? A new study identifies key characteristics of high schools that work. And at Granger High in Washington state, the principal demands high standards for students and staff.
An example of a solution. It has to be accomplished on the local level, not by mandates from the Federal government.
 
  • #33
Astronuc said:
What Makes a Good High School?
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5372097

An example of a solution. It has to be accomplished on the local level, not by mandates from the Federal government.


The US mantra, and the core reason why US education is the way it is. Local communities are dominated by wallet minded voters who have no motivation to spend on improving education, as opposed to behavior of students in schools.
 
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selfAdjoint said:
The US mantra, and the core reason why US education is the way it is. Local communities are dominated by wallet minded voters who have no motivation to spend on improving education, as opposed to behavior of students in schools.
Education is a certainly complicated issue.

Effective education require not only effective teaching, but students who are willing and wanting to learn.

Student behavior is a significant issue. Many students come to school with problems from home or community. Some are abused, and others witness the abuse of family members. Others are ashamed because of their economic status. How can a student learn, when trying to deal with that?

Other students have learning difficulties and in some cases physiological/psychological issues that interfere with the learning process. Yet they are expected to learn along side other students who do not have these challenges!

One size does not fit all.

I was providing one example of one principal and a group of teachers who are trying to make a difference, instead of giving up.