Usefulness of the momentum wavefuction in solving Schrodinger's Equation

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The discussion revolves around the usefulness of the momentum wavefunction in solving Schrödinger's Equation, particularly in the context of quantum and atomic physics. Participants explore scenarios where the momentum representation may be more advantageous than the position representation, examining both theoretical and practical implications.

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  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants note that the momentum representation can simplify the case of a free, non-relativistic particle, where the wavefunction is a phase factor times a delta distribution.
  • Others argue that atomic potentials, such as those in the hydrogen atom, become complex in the momentum representation, making the position representation generally preferable for bound state calculations.
  • One participant suggests that in scattering calculations and relativistic field theory problems, the momentum representation is typically favored, while the position representation is more useful in bound state multiparticle calculations.
  • Another viewpoint emphasizes that most quantum mechanics is conducted in either the momentum or energy basis, particularly when dealing with perturbative forces that affect energy eigenstates.
  • It is mentioned that second quantization often favors creation operators in momentum space, and that quantum systems on a lattice typically deal with momentum representations.
  • However, a counterpoint is raised regarding the use of position representation in quantum optics, where spatially resolved calculations are common, and the position representation is frequently employed in nonperturbative atomic and molecular quantum computations.
  • Participants highlight that both representations are important and have complementary uses, depending on the context of the problem being addressed.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the advantages of using momentum versus position wavefunctions, indicating that there is no consensus on which representation is universally superior. The discussion remains unresolved with multiple competing perspectives presented.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the dependence on specific contexts such as scattering versus bound state problems, and the varying complexity of representations based on the nature of the interactions involved.

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So my atomic physics professor was doing a review today of quantum mechanics. One of slightly odd things he mentioned was how most of the time we solve differential quantum equation, like Schrödinger's Time Dependent Equation, using a position wave-function rather a momentum wave-function because momentum version tends to be a higher order ODE than the position version.

Is there ever a case in Quantum or Atomic physics when it is more advantageous to use the momentum wavefunction rather than the position wavefunction? In other words it there any time where the momentum representation of the differential equation is simpler than the position representation?
 
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The free, non-relativistic particle case is trivial in the momentum representation. The wavefunction is just a phase factor times a delta distribution.

The atomic potentials (e.g. H-atom), however, look awful in the momentum representation.
 
piareround said:
So my atomic physics professor was doing a review today of quantum mechanics. One of slightly odd things he mentioned was how most of the time we solve differential quantum equation, like Schrödinger's Time Dependent Equation, using a position wave-function rather a momentum wave-function because momentum version tends to be a higher order ODE than the position version.

Is there ever a case in Quantum or Atomic physics when it is more advantageous to use the momentum wavefunction rather than the position wavefunction? In other words it there any time where the momentum representation of the differential equation is simpler than the position representation?

What he said is really odd. Probably he referred to most of his time only.

In scattering calculations and for relativistic field theory problems, one generally prefers the momentum representation, whereas in bound state multiparticle calculations, the position representation is usually superior. Of course, in atomic physics (but only there), the latter dominate.
 
In my experience most of quantum is done in either the momentum or energy basis. If you're concerned with any sort of perturbative force you are going to be concerned with how that perturbs the energy eigenstates not the position one. Second Quantization usually favors creation operators over field operators because it's simpler and any form of quantum on a lattice will deal with momentum (band theory and fermi surfaces and such). I'd say it's quite rare to see the POSITION basis.
 
maverick_starstrider said:
In my experience most of quantum is done in either the momentum or energy basis. If you're concerned with any sort of perturbative force you are going to be concerned with how that perturbs the energy eigenstates not the position one. Second Quantization usually favors creation operators over field operators because it's simpler and any form of quantum on a lattice will deal with momentum (band theory and fermi surfaces and such).

There are creation operators both in position and in momentum representation (namely Fourier transforms of each other). The position representation of the creation operator for photons is widely used in quantum optics, where one often needs to do spatially resolved calculations.

maverick_starstrider said:
I'd say it's quite rare to see the POSITION basis.

Your view is just the opposite extreme of that of the atomic physics professor, and equally one-sided - this time viewed solely from the quantum field theory perspective.

In the much used GAMESS package (http://www.msg.chem.iastate.edu/gamess/gamess.html) for nonperturbative atomic and molecular quantum computations (and in similar packages), all wave functions are represented in position space. The reason for using the position representation is that neutral atoms and molecules interact by short-range interactions, and are always strongly localized. Localization is very difficult to represent in momentum space.

It is only when working with perturbations of free fields (or particles) in perturbation theory that the momentum representation is essential, namely to compute the terms of the Born series.

Thus both representations are very important and have complementary uses.
 

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