Valentines day, the true meaning of love

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The discussion revolves around Valentine's Day, exploring its origins, cultural significance, and personal experiences related to the holiday. Participants share their feelings about the commercialization of the day, express varying opinions on music associated with love, and recount personal anecdotes regarding relationships and celebrations.

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  • One participant questions the origins and purpose of Valentine's Day, suggesting it has become overly commercialized.
  • Several participants express strong feelings about Valentine's Day, with some stating it irks them for various reasons.
  • Music plays a significant role in the discussion, with participants sharing their favorite love songs and debating different versions of "Book of Love" by Peter Gabriel and The Magnetic Fields.
  • Some participants share personal anecdotes about their experiences with Valentine's Day, including gift-giving and reflections on past relationships.
  • There are mentions of planned chat events related to Valentine's Day, indicating community engagement around the topic.
  • Participants express differing opinions on the emotional impact of certain songs, with some finding them dark or unhealthy while others appreciate their honesty.

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The discussion features multiple competing views regarding the significance and enjoyment of Valentine's Day, as well as differing opinions on music associated with the holiday. No consensus is reached on these topics.

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Participants express a range of emotions and experiences related to Valentine's Day, highlighting the subjective nature of love and celebration. There are unresolved disagreements about the quality and interpretation of specific songs.

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so Valentines is coming up, and I wonder where it all began. I mean now a days, its just a day where we get more candy, and Hallmark gets more money. And sure my boyfriends gets me things, and tells me he loves me, but really guys why does this day exists?
 
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Greg Bernhardt said:
fyi, we will be holding v-day/night chat :)

:!)
 
Greg Bernhardt said:
fyi, we will be holding v-day/night chat :)
Ooooh! :!)
 
Greg Bernhardt said:
roses for every women that joins! :biggrin:

night chat is 18+ :D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1oU9_hy3mA
 
Valentines day irks me for so many reasons! Grrrr !
 
They instigated $5 cover charges for all of us who swang some plumbing. Talk about violations of equal rights!

Sheesh...
 
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Five Valentine's Day songs for us "other people":

Bitter Pills For Bitter Pills

On the other hand, at least I don't have to fork out $50 for flowers only to have the recipient be ticked off at the sparcity of roses in the arrangement.

Even though it missed the final cut, the Mountain Goat's "No Children" that was mentioned is awesome in a very dark, mentally unhealthy kind of way (but that's the best kind of way).
 
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BobG said:
Five Valentine's Day songs for us "other people":

Bitter Pills For Bitter Pills

On the other hand, at least I don't have to fork out $50 for flowers only to have the recipient be ticked off at the sparcity of roses in the arrangement.

(Even though it missed the final cut, the Mountain Goat's "No Children" that was mentioned is awesome in a very dark, mentally unhealthy kind of way.)

All songs look quite dark I couldn't listen to any for more than few seconds but the singers are really good. I particularly loved Laura Gibson (This is not end) and Elizabeth & the Catapult (Thank you for nothing).
 
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BobG said:
Even though it missed the final cut, the Mountain Goat's "No Children" that was mentioned is awesome in a very dark, mentally unhealthy kind of way (but that's the best kind of way).
That's one of my favorite songs. I've posted it in chat a few times and people sad it was uhm, *wrong*. It' honest. :-p
 
  • #13
Ah yes, singles awareness day
 
  • #14
The guy I was dating that I played "no children" for, introduced to me *69 love songs*. The magnetic fields changed my life forever.

For BobG, hope you like these.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WVEhNHIzJec&feature=related

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WVEhNHIzJec



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQOrLamT0n4
 
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rootX said:
All songs look quite dark I couldn't listen to any for more than few seconds but the singers are really good. I particularly loved Laura Gibson (This is not end) and Elizabeth & the Catapult (Thank you for nothing).

I like the Avett Brothers. Somehow, these lyrics just strike something deep within me and brings a tear to my eye.

Park the old car
That I love the best
(The) inspections due and it won’t pass the test
It’s funny how I have to put it to rest
And how one day…I will join it

I miss every car I've ever owned (except that stupid deisel station wagon I owned for a while). I still remember how I left for a year in Alaska with the Mazda that I'd bought two years before for $50 sitting in the driveway - and how the ex sold it to a salvage yard for $40 the day after I was gone. I never even had to change the oil on that car - I just had to add a quart whenever I filled the gas tank.
 
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Evo said:
The guy I was dating that I played "no children" for, introduced to me *69 love songs*. The magnetic fields changed my life forever.

For BobG, hope you like these.

Actually, I have that CD set. Except my favorites are:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eo8vW_0H_Kg

and:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jkjXr9SrzQE
 
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BobG said:
Actually, I have that CD set. Except my favorites are:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eo8vW_0H_Kg

and:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jkjXr9SrzQE
Those are two favorites. I'm going crazy right now trying to find my volume 1 cd, what did I do with it?
 
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Greg Bernhardt said:
fyi, we will be holding v-day/night chat :)

Hmm, a singles night ey?
 
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Personally preferred Peter Gabriel's version of Book of Love that they played in the Scrubs Finale.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EiJGk3Rzbvs
 
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BobG said:
Even though it missed the final cut, the Mountain Goat's "No Children" that was mentioned is awesome in a very dark, mentally unhealthy kind of way (but that's the best kind of way).
Piano and guitar are nice, but I don't care for the lyrics.
 
  • #22
Greg Bernhardt said:
roses for every women that joins! :biggrin:

night chat is 18+ :D

I'm so there!
 
  • #23
A different video with Peter Gabriel's version of the Book of Love. The old couples in the video remind me of my grand parents and now parents. I had good examples.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FmnDXRJ7btE

Re: Book of Love - Love is never boring. Sometimes it's hard work, some times it's mundane, but mostly, it's simply wonderful.

In about 4 weeks, it will be the 30th anniversary of my first date with my wife.
 
  • #24
I don't like Peter Gabriels remake of the Book of Love. He makes it sound off tune, dull, and boring.
 
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Evo said:
I don't like Peter Gabriels remake of the Book of Love.

The one by the 'magnets' or who ever it is sounds really out of tune. I've heard drunken karaoke go down better.

EDIT: I like "A Thousand Miles - Vanessa Carlton", but that's mainly because I can play it on the piano.
 
  • #26
jarednjames said:
The one by the 'magnets' or who ever it is sounds really out of tune.
LOL. I guess if you hadn't heard the real version first...

Stephin Merrit sings it with passion and his unmistakeable style and deep voice (he wrote it),Gabriel sings it like he's on drugs and falling asleep.

I liked the scrubs scenes, but they shouldn't have messed with the original song, talk about screwing something up.
 
  • #27
OMG, just listen to how it's supposed to sound. It's light and lilting. Gabriel makes it sound like a meth addict's dirge.

Book of love



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ox6aHGmfxB8
 
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  • #28
Ooh, listened to the Stephin Merrit one and it sounds very much like the first one here. Can't say I'm too impressed.

I'd actually say the opposite to you, in that I think this Stephin guy sounds like he's half out of it.

Ah well...
 
  • #30
I always get my wife a box of chocolates with nuts. She always let's me have a few.
 

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