Value of Spring Stiffness k in Free Vibration of Mass-Spring System

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The discussion revolves around determining the spring stiffness k in a mass-spring system undergoing free vibration. The original poster provides the mass and amplitude but seeks clarification on the angular frequency ω0, which is necessary for calculating k.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

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  • Participants explore the relationship between mass, amplitude, and angular frequency. There are questions about the relevance of the amplitude and the necessity of knowing ω0 to find k. Some participants discuss the importance of a graph mentioned in the problem.

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Participants are actively questioning the completeness of the problem statement and the information needed to proceed. There is a focus on understanding the relationships between frequency, period, and angular frequency, with some participants confirming values derived from these relationships.

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There is uncertainty regarding the completeness of the problem statement, and the graph's role in providing additional information is emphasized. Participants note that the value of amplitude may not be necessary for the calculation.

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A mass-spring system is in free vibration after an initial excitation. There are no outside forces acting on the system. What is the value of the spring stiffness k (units of N/m; round your answer to a single decimal place)?

Mass m = 0.6 kg
Amplitude A = 0.4

Using this equation:
z(t) = A sin (w0 t)

Where w0 = SQUARE ROOT k/m
k is in the unit N/m and m is in the unit kg
 
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Canada95 said:
What is the value of the spring stiffness k (units of N/m; round your answer to a single decimal place)?
You must know ω0.

The value of A doesn't matter.
 
Hesch said:
You must know ω0.

The value of A doesn't matter.

Okay, but I need help figuring out the value of ω0!
I know the value of m (0.6 kg), so I just need to figure out k!
Do you know how to figure that out?
 
You cannot determine ωo or k from the given information. Is the question statement word-for-word complete?
 
gneill said:
You cannot determine ωo or k from the given information. Is the question statement word-for-word complete?

Yes, that's the entire question. There is also a graph if that helps at all.

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The graph is key to the problem. What information can you glean from the graph?
 
gneill said:
The graph is key to the problem. What information can you glean from the graph?
Amplitude, frequency, and period.
Is frequency equal to ω0?
And frequency I believe would be 3, correct?
 
Canada95 said:
Amplitude, frequency, and period.
Is frequency equal to ω0?
And frequency I believe would be 3, correct?
Period T (Seconds) and frequency f (Hz) are both related to angular frequency ω (radians / sec). Do you know the relationships between these quantities? It comes up a lot so it's worth committing to memory.
 
gneill said:
Period T (Seconds) and frequency f (Hz) are both related to angular frequency ω (radians / sec). Do you know the relationships between these quantities? It comes up a lot so it's worth committing to memory.
Angular frequency is equal to 2πf, if I remember correctly. So since f=3 in this example, would angular frequency be equal to 6π?
 
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Canada95 said:
Angular frequency is equal to 2πf, if I remember correctly. So since f=3 in this example, would angular frequency be equal to 6π?
Yes, but be sure to always include units when you quote values. In most cases in physics (and all sciences) a number alone is meaningless.

So f = 3 Hz and ω = 6π rad/sec.
 
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gneill said:
Yes, but be sure to always include units when you quote values. In most cases in physics (and all sciences) a number alone is meaningless.

So f = 3 Hz and ω = 6π rad/sec.

Okay, that works out! Thank you so much for your help!
 
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You're welcome. Good luck with your studies.
 

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