Variable Mass:Sand from balloon

In summary: So integrating from v(t=0) to v and from t=0 to t gives: $$\int_0^v dv = (M+m_o)g\int_0^t \frac{dt}{M+m_o - \alpha t} - gt$$
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Homework Statement


A balloon of mass M contains a bag of sand of initial mass ##m_o##. The balloon experiences a constant upthrust and is initially at rest and in equilibrium: the upthrust compensates exactly for the gravitational force. At time t=0, the sand is released at a constant rate. It is fully disposed of in time ##t_o##. Determine the velocity ##v(t)## at any time between t=0 and ##t=t_o##. Express the result in terms of $$k = \frac{m_o}{M+m_o} \frac{1}{t_o}$$

The Attempt at a Solution



At t=0, sand released at constant rate, ##\alpha## say. So, ##\frac{dm}{dt} = -\alpha, ##m the mass of the sand bag. Solve the above to give ##m_s(t) = m_o - \alpha t##

The mass of the whole system (balloon + sand bag), ##M(t) = M + m_o -\alpha t##

By NII, $$P(t+\Delta t) - P(t) = F_{ext} \Delta t \Rightarrow M(t + \Delta t)v(t + \Delta t) - M(t)v(t) = F_{ext}\Delta t$$

Taylor expand the first two terms to give $$(M(t) + \Delta t \dot{M})(v(t) + \Delta t \dot{v}) - M(t)v(t) = [(M + m_o)g - M(t)g]\Delta t,\,\,F_{ext} = (M + m_o)g - M(t)g$$

Collect terms ignore the (very small) ##\Delta t^2## term to get $$\dot{v} - \frac{\alpha}{M + m_o - \alpha t}v = \frac{(M+m_o)g - M(t)g}{M + m_o - \alpha t},$$ which can be solved by integrating factor.

Does it look good so far? When I look at the solution, they end up doing just an ordinary integration.

Many thanks.
 
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##P(t+\Delta t)## should include the momentum of all of the material that is included in ##P(t)##. That would include not only the material still left in the balloon at ##t+\Delta t## but also the sand material that was released during the interval ##\Delta t##.
 
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TSny said:
##P(t+\Delta t)## should include the momentum of all of the material that is included in ##P(t)##. That would include not only the material still left in the balloon at ##t+\Delta t## but also the sand material that was released during the interval ##\Delta t##.

##P(t + \Delta t)## is the momentum of the material still left in the balloon after ##\Delta t## and the momentum of the sand released in that ##\Delta t##. So I should have had something like: $$P(t + \Delta t) = M(t+\Delta t)v(t+\Delta t) - dm(v+dv),$$ dv the change in velocity as a result of disposing the sand.

This will reduce the eqn to $$M(t)dv = (M+m_o)g - M(t)g$$ Is it better?
 
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CAF123 said:
This will reduce the eqn to $$M(t)dv = (M+m_o)g - M(t)g$$ Is it better?

Yes, that looks good (but you dropped a ##dt## somewhere).
 
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CAF123 said:
So I should have had something like: $$P(t + \Delta t) = M(t+\Delta t)v(t+\Delta t) - dm(v+dv),$$ dv the change in velocity as a result of disposing the sand.

Maybe a minor point: For the last term ##dm(v+dv)## you could use just ##v## instead of ##v+dv## since you only need terms to first order.
 
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TSny said:
Yes, that looks good (but you dropped a ##dt## somewhere).
So integrating from v(t=0) to v and from t=0 to t gives: $$\int_0^v dv = (M+m_o)g\int_0^t \frac{dt}{M+m_o - \alpha t} - gt$$

This gives $$v(t) = \frac{(M+m_o)g}{\alpha} \ln \left(\frac{M+m_o}{M+m_o-\alpha t}\right) - gt$$

Is there another way to express ##\alpha##?
 
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You should be able to express ##\alpha## in terms of ##m_0## and ##t_0##.
 
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That would be ##\alpha = m_o/t_o##.
 
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CAF123 said:
That would be ##\alpha = m_o/t_o##.
Right.
 

1. What is variable mass and how does it relate to sand from a balloon?

Variable mass refers to a system where the amount of mass changes over time. In the case of sand from a balloon, the mass of the balloon decreases as the sand is released, resulting in a variable mass system.

2. How does the mass of the sand affect the behavior of the balloon?

The mass of the sand directly affects the buoyancy of the balloon. As sand is released from the balloon, the mass decreases, causing the balloon to become less buoyant and eventually fall to the ground.

3. How does the size or type of the balloon impact the variable mass system?

The size or type of the balloon can impact the rate at which the sand is released and therefore affect the behavior of the variable mass system. For example, a larger balloon may release sand at a slower rate, resulting in a longer period of variable mass behavior.

4. What other factors can influence the variable mass behavior of sand from a balloon?

The air pressure and temperature can also impact the variable mass behavior of sand from a balloon. Higher air pressure can cause the balloon to deflate at a slower rate, while lower air pressure can cause the balloon to deflate more quickly.

5. How is the variable mass behavior of sand from a balloon relevant in scientific research or real-world applications?

The study of variable mass systems, such as sand from a balloon, can provide insights into fluid dynamics and the behavior of gases. This knowledge can be applied in various fields, such as meteorology, aeronautics, and even space exploration.

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