Variable tension apparatus for transducer analysis

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around the design and construction of a variable tension apparatus for analyzing ribbon loudspeakers, specifically focusing on the behavior of transducers and the necessary equipment for precise measurements. Participants explore the requirements for testing different membrane alignments and the forces involved in the operation of the loudspeaker.

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Main Points Raised

  • Thadman expresses interest in building a ribbon loudspeaker and seeks advice on creating a machine that can apply a specific, measurable force to the ends of the membrane for accurate testing.
  • One participant questions whether a constant force is being applied and suggests using calibrated scale weights if that is the case, while also inquiring about the desired vibration frequency.
  • Another participant proposes using a machine that can push up and down on the membrane, measuring the force required to deflect it, and discusses the need for the apparatus to maintain constant tension while clamping the membrane.
  • A later reply mentions the necessity of establishing initial design tension and suggests looking for an extensometer or laser extensometer to assist with this task.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants have not reached a consensus on the specific design or method for applying variable tension to the membrane, and multiple approaches are being discussed without resolution.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations regarding the assumptions made about the forces applied and the specific requirements for the apparatus, which remain unresolved. The discussion also depends on the definitions of terms like "constant tension" and "deflection," which may vary among participants.

Who May Find This Useful

Individuals interested in audio engineering, particularly those focused on loudspeaker design and transducer analysis, may find this discussion relevant.

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I'm interested in building a ribbon loudspeaker in my free time over Christmas break and would like to drive it directly. Following the resolution of some meetings with faculty in the engineering department, I might be able to gain access to the Universities Laser Vibrometer and Anechoic chamber for measurements (and comparison with the RAAL 140-15D).

I've conducted significant research within the AES E-Library as well as my Universities research library with regards to ribbon transducers. Only a few articles have been published, and of those, very little research regarding the behavior of the membrane was conducted.

Assuming I can get access to the Universities measurement equipment, I'd like to do testing on a variety of transducer alignments, specifically low and high compliance membranes.

Haphazardly clamping the membrane does not appear to possesses the rigor necessary for a scientific analysis of transducer behavior.

To achieve an accurate correlation between experimental and simulated results, it will be necessary to apply a very specific, measurable force at the ends of the membrane.

I'm not sure how/where to build/purchase/acquire access to such a specific machine...or even what to google. If any users could provide help with regards to the aforementioned topic, I would be very appreciative.

Thanks,
Thadman
 
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I assume you're not applying just a constant force to the ends. If that was the case, I'd say just use calibrated scale weights. If you want to vary the force with time, how fast are the vibrations you want to create?

You could get any machine that pushes up and down on the membrane. Measure the force required to deflect the membrane. As the machine pushes the membrane, you will know what the force is from the deflection. Is this what you're talking about?
 
bluelava0207 said:
I assume you're not applying just a constant force to the ends. If that was the case, I'd say just use calibrated scale weights. If you want to vary the force with time, how fast are the vibrations you want to create?

You could get any machine that pushes up and down on the membrane. Measure the force required to deflect the membrane. As the machine pushes the membrane, you will know what the force is from the deflection. Is this what you're talking about?

The apparatus will be required to tension the membrane. After which, the membrane will be rigidly clamped to sustain a constant tension. Current will be applied to the membrane which will generate an electromagnetic field that will interact with the permanent magnetic field generated by 2 parallel rows of neodymium magnets. The membrane will deform as a result of this interaction over a specific bandwidth (100hz-20khz).
 
This equipment should help insure a constant tension from test to test, however some other device will be needed to establish the initial design tension.

Google; Extensometer or "Laser extensometer"
 
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