Variables in a lab (controlled, independant and dependant)

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The discussion revolves around identifying and defining the independent, dependent, and controlled variables in a physics lab focused on measuring the moment of inertia using a sensor for angular velocity. Participants are exploring the definitions and roles of these variables in the context of their experiment.

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  • Participants are attempting to categorize variables based on their roles in the experiment, questioning the definitions of independent and controlled variables. There is discussion about whether the moment of inertia or the mass of the hanging mass should be considered independent, and whether angular velocity and angular acceleration can both be classified as dependent variables.

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Some participants have provided clarifications regarding the definitions of controlled and independent variables, while others are still uncertain about the classification of the dependent variable. The conversation reflects a productive exploration of the concepts, with participants actively engaging in questioning and refining their understanding.

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There is an indication that this is the original poster's first experience with this type of lab work, which may contribute to their uncertainty regarding the variable classifications. The discussion also highlights the complexity of the experiment and the need for clarity in defining the relationships between the variables.

Simon George
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Hi!
So it's new for me to do physics lab that way and my teacher is asking us to define the independent, independent and controlled variables of every lab we're doing. I'm not quite sure what they refer to... For example, in a moment of inertia lab (see picture), I am asked this question. The objective of this experiment is to experimentally find the moment of inertia of this system with a sensor that will measure the angular velocity. This is what I tried:

controlled variable: moment of inertia of the disk and ring
independent variable: the mass of the hanging mass
independent varable: the angular velocity

I have no idea if that is good as it is my first time doing this. Please ask below if you have any question about the experiment! thanks:)
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Simon George said:
controlled variable: moment of inertia of the disk and ring
independent variable: the mass of the hanging mass
I cannot tell from your description which way around those should be.
A control (or controlled) variable is just something that is constant throughout the a series of tests, and which is not of primary concern. E.g. here the moment of inertia of the pulley would fall into that category. There may be several.
An independent variable should normally be one you are varying deliberately through a series in order to establish a relationship with the dependent variable(s).
If this was just a one-off measurement, I would guess you should make that the parameter to be computed, i.e. the moment of inertia of the ring. (On the princiole that on another such experiment you would use a different ring.)
 
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haruspex said:
I cannot tell from your description which way around those should be.
A control (or controlled) variable is just something that is constant throughout the a series of tests, and which is not of primary concern. E.g. here the moment of inertia of the pulley would fall into that category. There may be several.
An independent variable should normally be one you are varying deliberately through a series in order to establish a relationship with the dependent variable(s).
If this was just a one-off measurement, I would guess you should make that the parameter to be computed, i.e. the moment of inertia of the ring. (On the princiole that on another such experiment you would use a different ring.)
Thank you for your answer! It is much more clear in my head now. Since 50g were added in the hanging mass, I think you are right and that the controlled variable is the moment of inertia, the independent is the mass of the hanging mass but I am not sure for the dependent variable... since the mass in the hanging mass is influencing the angular velocity, should I say that the angular velocity AND the angular acceleration are the dependent variable?
Again, thanks for your clear explanation of the variable!
 
Simon George said:
the angular velocity AND the angular acceleration are the dependent variable?
That is right. There can be any number of dependent variables, but it is perhaps only necessary to list the ones directly measured.
In a more complicated lab there may be more than one independent variable too.
 

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