Variation of quadratic Riemann Curvature tensor

[Qatawna blitz]

TL;DR Summary: How can I variate the quadratic Riemann curvature tensor, I tried raising and lowering the indices.

Hi,
Can you help me with this variation, I tried raising and lowering the indices.

I tried for months every possible method to reach the following answer without success.

 

[haushofer]

Please provide the reference if you want people to help. Your Langrangian suddenly contains two indices u and v, and my crystal ball provides no information about what that means.

 

[Qatawna blitz]

I think the two indicies uv in the answered lagrangian means variation with respect to g_uv
It's in the textbook: Introducing Einstein's General Relativity "Ray d'Inverno" @haushofer

 

[Mike_bb]

Hi.

$L_{uv} = \sqrt{-g}[g_{ud}R^{abcd}R_{abcv} + g_{vd}R^{abcd}R_{abcu} - \frac {1}{2}g_{uv}R^{abcd}R_{abcd}]$

I could be wrong but it looks like following expression:

$L_{uv} = \sqrt{-g}[2R_{uv} - \frac {1}{2}g_{uv}R]$

 

[renormalize]

TL;DR Summary: How can I variate the quadratic Riemann curvature tensor, I tried raising and lowering the indices.

Hi,
Can you help me with this variation, I tried raising and lowering the indices.
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I tried for months every possible method to reach the following answer without success.

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Can you post a screenshot with the full problem description?

 

[robphy]

Possibly useful: https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&q="quadratic+lagrangians"+"general+relativity"

Just for fun... try "use the palatini method to find the total variation of the kretschmann scalar action" in https://copilot.microsoft.com/ (you could follow up with "show steps"). I haven't checked it for correctness.

 

[PeterDonis]

Moderator's note: Thread moved to the advanced physics homework help forum.

 

[PeterDonis]

I tried for months every possible method to reach the following answer without success.

Please post what you have tried.