Variation of the quadratic formula?

[toltol123]

http://www.mste.uiuc.edu/users/exner/ncsa/quad/

There's another way of writing the quadratic formula...but how do I derive the 2nd formula using the 1st one? I've tried for hours and I can't get it. I would really appreciate any help.

 

[krab]

Hint:
(-b+\sqrt{b^2-4ac})(-b-\sqrt{b^2-4ac})=4ac
Take the two different forms, set them equal to each other and simplify. But you have to know that the lower sign of the plus/minus in the one form corresponds to the upper sign in the other form.

 

[arildno]

Alternatively, multiply with 1 in a smart manner:
\frac{-b\pm\sqrt{b^{2}-4ac}}{2a}=\frac{-b\pm\sqrt{b^{2}-4ac}}{2a}*1=\frac{-b\pm\sqrt{b^{2}-4ac}}{2a}*\frac{-b\mp\sqrt{b^{2}-4ac}}{-b\mp\sqrt{b^{2}-4ac}}=\frac{b^{2}-(b^{2}-4ac)}{2a(-b\mp\sqrt{b^{2}-4ac})}=\frac{2c}{-b\mp\sqrt{b^{2}-4ac}}

The alternate version is often used if the numerator in the standard version becomes a difference between almost equal numbers.
I.e, we may avoid loss of significant digits by using the alternate version.

 

[toltol123]

oh, so in a way I'm rationalizing the equation and just multiplying by the conjugate? except it's backwards, because the radical is moved to the bottom.

 

[arildno]

oh, so in a way I'm rationalizing the equation and just multiplying by the conjugate? except it's backwards, because the radical is moved to the bottom.

Yes, you multiply with 1 in the form of the conjugate of the numerator.
Thus, the root expression vanishes from the numerator but reappears in the denominator.
I'm not too sure about what you mean by "rationalizing" and "backwards", though..