MHB Vector Field Formula for Graph in [-2,2] x [-2,2]

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The discussion focuses on constructing a vector field formula that resembles a graph defined within the domain [-2, 2] x [-2, 2]. Participants suggest using the function f(x,y) = y/(x-1), which produces singular points at x = 1, where the formula becomes undefined. The gradient of this function is given by the vector field represented as (-y/(x-1)^2, 1/(x-1)). The conversation also clarifies that the cross product mentioned does not apply in this 2D context, as it pertains to the domain of the function rather than vector operations.

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Give an example of a formula for a vector field whose graph would closely resemble the one shown. The box for this figure is [−2, 2] x [−2, 2].View attachment 4930

Not sure where to start.
 

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carl123 said:
Give an example of a formula for a vector field whose graph would closely resemble the one shown. The box for this figure is [−2, 2] x [−2, 2].
Not sure where to start.

Hi carl123! (Smile)

Typically we can write a vector field as the gradient of some $f(x,y)$.
From the graph given, there are 2 singular points at $x=\pm 1$.
Can you think of a $f(x,y)$ such that those are indeed singular points? (Wondering)
 
Will it be f (x,y) = f (-2,2)?
 
carl123 said:
Will it be f (x,y) = f (-2,2)?

Huh? That's not a formula for f(x,y). (Worried)

Consider that for instance $\frac{1}{x-1}$ is a formula where $x=1$ is a singular point.
 
I like Serena said:
Huh? That's not a formula for f(x,y). (Worried)

Consider that for instance $\frac{1}{x-1}$ is a formula where $x=1$ is a singular point.

where x = 1 is a singular point, the denominator will be 0 then.
 
carl123 said:
where x = 1 is a singular point, the denominator will be 0 then.

Exactly! (Nod)
 
I like Serena said:
Exactly! (Nod)

if the denominator is 0, the formula will be undefined. What does that say about the graph?

Also, when I found the cross product of [-2,2] and [-2,2], I got 0. Does that mean, there's no field that resembles the graph?

Thanks.
 
carl123 said:
if the denominator is 0, the formula will be undefined. What does that say about the graph?
Suppose we pick $f(x,y)=\frac{y}{x-1}$.
Then the gradient will be:
$$\begin{pmatrix}\pd f x\\\pd f y\end{pmatrix} =\begin{pmatrix}-\frac{y}{(x-1)^2}\\\frac{1}{x-1}\end{pmatrix}$$

We can see the resulting vector plot here.

Also, when I found the cross product of [-2,2] and [-2,2], I got 0. Does that mean, there's no field that resembles the graph?
How would that cross product be related?
 
I like Serena said:
Suppose we pick $f(x,y)=\frac{y}{x-1}$.

How would that cross product be related?

Their cross product is equal
 
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carl123 said:
Also, when I found the cross product of [-2,2] and [-2,2], I got 0. Does that mean, there's no field that resembles the graph?

Thanks.
[-2,2] x [-2,2] is not the cross product of two vectors. (How can you take the cross product of two vectors in 2D space??) It represents the domain of the function: [math]x \in [ -2,2 ] [/math] and [math]y \in [-2,2] [/math].

-Dan
 

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