Velocity with negative acceleration

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving a train with an initial velocity of 20 m/s and a negative acceleration of -1 m/s². Participants are tasked with determining the displacement of the train after 40 seconds, considering the effects of deceleration.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the relationship between velocity, acceleration, and displacement, questioning how to mathematically represent the effects of negative acceleration over time. Some consider the implications of constant deceleration and its impact on final velocity and displacement.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants offering different perspectives on the problem. Some suggest that the train's velocity decreases steadily, while others question how this affects displacement over the entire time period. There is an acknowledgment of the complexity involved in the calculations, particularly regarding the assumptions made about the motion.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the initial position is set at zero, and there is uncertainty about how to incorporate the effects of deceleration over the specified time. The problem's wording and the implications of the train's motion after coming to a stop are also under consideration.

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Homework Statement


Train goes 20 m/s
Brakes cause a = -1 m/s2
Displacement at t = 40s ?

Homework Equations


v = 20 m/s
a = -1 m/s2
t = 40s

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It seemed like this formula fit perfectly. It had all of the known variables and the one unknown neatly out front.

The velocity is too fast and the deceleration too slow for the displacement to be 0m.

The only thing I could think of was that my delta x should have data but the initial position is 0 and the final position is unknown.

I can't imagine where such a simple problem went wrong.
 
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If every second the train is going 1 m/s slower than it was the previous second how fast is it going after 20 seconds? Does that help?
 
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AndrewHolowack said:
If every second the train is going 1 m/s slower than it was the previous second how fast is it going after 20 seconds? Does that help?
Is it really that simple though?

The first part of my equation is displacement = velocity x time without regard for acceleration. Before deceleration the train would go 800m.

I'm not sure how to represent your idea mathematically. Going -1 m/s2 x 40s doesn't seem right to me.
 
Your equation is right, and so is your answer if you assume that the negative acceleration continues for the entire 40 seconds. At 20 seconds the train comes to a stop and then begins to move backwards. At 40 seconds the train is back were you began with a velocity of -20 m/s. They way the question is worded you could argue that the train will simply come to a stop at 20 seconds.
 

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