Velocity, Work, and Acceleration

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The discussion revolves around solving physics problems related to velocity, work, and acceleration. The user initially struggles with applying the kinetic energy equation and later finds the correct answer for one problem. They then face challenges in calculating net acceleration, particularly when factoring in friction. Clarifications are provided regarding the constant speed of a block after being released from a spring and the need to focus on deceleration due to friction. The conversation emphasizes using Newton's second law and kinematics to determine the final speed after the block moves through a rough surface.
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For number 2, I can't seem to figure it out. I am using the equation from deltaKinetic Energy which is v=sq(2F)(dx))

The F for force I'm using is the spring constant x displacement which is 4886(.447). dx=.447. Take the sqroot of that and you get 44.18, but that's incorrect. I tried so many values that I lost track. Not really sure how I should go about this one?
 
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Hi mohabitar

Try using work = change in kinetic energy.
 
Ok thanks got this one (7.21 was the answer).
Now, same problem, different question:
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This one has stumped me. I tried using the same process as I did for the other one, but I am just not really sure how to factor fraction in there. Am I supposed to find the acceleration of the box during the non-friction area and subtract from it the acceleration during friction to find net acceleration? Ah I honestly don't even know where I can start this one.
 
mohabitar said:
Ok thanks got this one (7.21 was the answer).
Now, same problem, different question:
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This one has stumped me. I tried using the same process as I did for the other one, but I am just not really sure how to factor fraction in there. Am I supposed to find the acceleration of the box during the non-friction area and subtract from it the acceleration during friction to find net acceleration? Ah I honestly don't even know where I can start this one.

No, you got the wrong idea. The block is not accelerating when it has been released from the spring. Instead, it moves with constant speed because there is net force acting on it. The spring force only acting on it when it is attached to it and when the spring is compressed.

So you only need to find the acceleration caused by friction (which is called deceleration). Using Newton's second law, then use kinematics to find the speed
 
Ok so F[spring]=SpringConstant(Normal Force)=.4(mg)=.4(16)(9.81)=62.78
Then I used the kinematics equation V^2=u^2+2as putting s as 2 and used the above value for a, but that wasnt working out. Am I on the wrong path?
 
mohabitar said:
Ok so F[spring]=SpringConstant(Normal Force)=.4(mg)=.4(16)(9.81)=62.78
Then I used the kinematics equation V^2=u^2+2as putting s as 2 and used the above value for a, but that wasnt working out. Am I on the wrong path?

That's not the right equation (although maybe you got the same result as the right equation). Using Newton's second law:
ΣF = ma

What is the resultant force acting on the object (in horizontal direction) when it slides through the rough floor?
Don't forget the value of a should be negative when you plug it to kinematic formula.
 
Still not getting this. What do I use Newtons second law to find? A by friction? So F=ma, I need to find a and I don't know F, so how would I solve for a? And what what delta x be in this situation, just 2? When I use a kinematics equation, will I have an initial speed of 7.21?
 
Hi mohabitar

Yes, you use Newton's second law to find the deceleration because you need it to find the final speed after getting through the rough floor. The force acting on the object (in horizontal direction) is friction only.

I am not sure what you mean by Δx, but if you mean it is the distance to put in the kinematics formula, yes it is 2 m; and the initial speed is indeed 7.21
 
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