Vendor for telescope mirror cells?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around recommendations for vendors that provide well-designed mirror cells for reflecting telescopes, specifically in the 8-inch diameter range. Participants share their experiences with existing mirror cells and explore potential solutions to improve performance.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses dissatisfaction with their current mirror cell design, which uses a metal backing ring and side set-screws, leading to surface distortions and potential spherical aberration.
  • Another participant suggests checking out an amateur astronomy forum, specifically cloudynights.com, for additional resources.
  • A link to a vendor's mirror cell design is shared, noted for its multiple pad mount, which some participants find appealing.
  • Concerns are raised about the tightness of the clips holding the mirror, with suggestions to loosen them to reduce distortions, although this may lead to other alignment issues.
  • One participant mentions that backing off the clips may help minimize distortions but could also cause the mirror to shift during collimation, introducing astigmatism.
  • A link to another potential source for mirror cells is provided, though it is noted that these cells are designed for larger RC mirrors.
  • Discussion includes a suggestion to use silicone blobs on the pads underneath the primary mirror to prevent excessive movement if clips are loosened.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the best solution for mirror cell design or the effectiveness of loosening clips, indicating multiple competing views and unresolved issues regarding optimal mirror support.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty about the effects of loosening clips on mirror alignment and performance, as well as the suitability of suggested vendors for their specific needs.

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Any suggestions on vendors for good, well-designed reflecting telescope mirror holding cells, in the ~ 8" diameter range? I've had enough grief from the very poorly-designed cell that holds the primary in my 7" Mak-Newtonian, and am looking to toss it and replace it with something better. Tube diameter is 8" more or less.
 
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No idea. Have you tried an amateur astronomy specific forum? I'm a member of cloudynights.com myself.
 
Ah, hadn't seen that forum - looks pretty active too, I'll dig around.
 
Looks nice, the multiple pad mount is what I'm looking for, my cell is just a metal backing ring that leaves the most of the mirror unsupported, with three side set-screws to keep it in place. The three screws create obvious surface distortions in a high-mag star test, and I'm sure the unsupported part adds some spherical aberration though it's hard to tell. But unfortunately those cells are for large RC mirrors.
 
JeffKoch said:
Looks nice, the multiple pad mount is what I'm looking for, my cell is just a metal backing ring that leaves the most of the mirror unsupported, with three side set-screws to keep it in place. The three screws create obvious surface distortions in a high-mag star test, and I'm sure the unsupported part adds some spherical aberration though it's hard to tell. But unfortunately those cells are for large RC mirrors.

The 3 clips that hold your mirror might have been tightened down for shipping. Before I did anything, I'd loosen those three clips. Most have phillips head screws. The clips don't need to hold the mirror tightly, just back them off a half turn each. Overtightening those clips is a common problem (mistake) in newts.
 
I've played with them, they're rubber-tipped allen-head set screws that keep the mirror from moving around - don't remember if they were especially tight when I received the scope 10+ years ago, but basically I can minimize the surface distortions by backing them out slightly but then the mirror moves after I collimate it. This makes it impossible to keep the scope aligned, and introduces astigmatism that is much worse than the small distortions due to the set screws. The distortions are obviously most noticeable looking at planets with high magnification, which is exactly where the scope is supposed to do it's best work - only solution I've found, short of tossing the mount and starting over, is to aperture the mirror down slightly with a cardboard annulus.
 
http://lefevre.darkhorizons.org/lxd55/clipectomy.htm" discusses those clips as well. Most mirrors don't rattle around that much when the clips are loosened. If so, you might want to dab a few blobs of silicone onto the pads underneath the primary.
 
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