Vertical Circular Motion & Centripetal Acceleration

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The discussion revolves around two problems related to vertical circular motion and centripetal acceleration. The first problem involves calculating the centripetal acceleration of a car traveling around a circular track, while the second problem pertains to the speed of a roller coaster at the bottom of a vertical dip.

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  • Participants explore the calculations for centripetal acceleration and question the velocity used in the first problem.
  • In the second problem, there is discussion about the forces acting on the passenger and the correct interpretation of the weight and force relationship.
  • Some participants suggest re-evaluating the calculations and checking for errors in the setup of the equations.

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There has been progress in understanding the second problem, with one participant reporting a successful calculation. However, the first problem remains under discussion, with participants attempting to clarify the relationship between radius, velocity, and acceleration.

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Participants are working under the constraints of homework rules, which may limit the information they can share or the methods they can use. There is also confusion regarding the interpretation of the radius and the calculations related to the circumference of the track.

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[SOLVED] Vertical Circular Motion & Centripetal Acceleration

Homework Statement


1) A car travels at a constant speed around a circular track whose radius is 2.1 km. The car goes once around the track in 410 s. What is the magnitude of the centripetal acceleration of the car?

Homework Equations


a=(v^2)/r

The Attempt at a Solution


a=((2100/410)^2)/2100=0.01249 - wrong answer

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Homework Statement


2)A roller coaster at an amusement park has a dip that bottoms out in a vertical circle of radius r. A passenger feels the seat of the car pushing upward on her with a force equal to five times her weight as she goes through the dip. If r = 20.5 m, how fast is the roller coaster traveling at the bottom of the dip?

Homework Equations


F-mg = m(v^2/r)

The Attempt at a Solution


v^2 = (20.5)(9.8)
v = 14.17 m/s - wrong answer

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Please help me, I don't know what I'm doing wrong.
 
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I believe you miscalculated the velocity in the first question. You probably want to give this another look.

In the second question, try rewriting

F -mg = m(v^2)/r all in terms of m, g, v, and r.

Then go through and see what you can cancel.
 
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Thank you so much for replying.

For the 1st problem:
2.1 km = 2,100 m
velocity = 2,100 m / 410 s = 5.12 m/s (did anything went wrong in this step?)

a = (v^2)/r
a = (5.12^2)/2100 = 0.01248

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For the 2nd problem:
F - mg = m(v^2)/r

Force is 5 times the weight, so F=5m

5m - mg = m(v^2)/r
m(5-g) = m(v^2)/r
rm(5-g)/m = m(v^2)/m
r(5-g) = v^2
(20.5)(5-9.8) = v^2
-98.4=v^2 (Do I ignore the negative sign?)
 
For the first question:

2.1 km is the radius of the track. You need to use this information to find the entire length of the track (more specifically, the circumference). Then use this information to find the velocity.

For the second question:

As you said, the force is 5 times the weight. However, this is not F = 5m. It should be F = 5mg because W = mg (the MASS is m, but the WEIGHT is mg).

I hope this makes sense; if not, I'll be up for a while and would be happy to try to help further.
 
Thank you for your help.
I got the 2nd problem. The answer came out to be 28.35 m/s.

For the 1st problem:
a = (v^2)/r
r = 2100/(2*3.14) = 334.39

velocity = 334.39m/410s = 0.8156 m/s?
then the acceleration would be a= 0.8156/410 = 0.001989 m/s^2?
 
Congratulations on getting the answer to the second question.

Now, let's try to iron the wrinkles in the first problem.

The problem gives you the value for r. This is 2.1 km = 2,100 m. It also gives you the time it takes for the car to make one full lap around the track.

To get the velocity, you need to find the distance the car travels in the time it took to complete one lap. Thus, you need to find the length of the track and then divide this number by the time it took to traverse the track.

How do you think you will find the length of the track?

HINT: The circumference of a circle = 2*pi*r
 
So, the circumference is (2)(pi)(2100) = 13,194.69 m
the car traveled for 410 s, 13194.69/410 = 32.18 m/s?

EDIT: I got it! Thank you so much. You are a lifesaver!
 
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