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The discussion revolves around finding the slope of the tangent to the curve defined by the equation y = 8 + 5x² - 2x³ at the point where x = a. Participants clarify that 'a' represents a numerical value rather than a specific point on the curve. The slope can be calculated using the derivative of the function, which is derived from the limit definition of the derivative. The confusion arises from the lack of a defined value for 'a', but it is established that 'a' can be treated as any real number.

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Homework Statement



The question in it's complete wording:

Consider the following curve.
y = 8 + 5x2 - 2x3.

Find the slope of the tangent to the curve at the point where x = a.

Homework Equations



(y2-y1)/(x2-x1) where x2=x1+dx and the limit of dx is approaching zero and y2=f(x+dx).

The Attempt at a Solution



Well, this is the really hard part because they don't tell you what a is. Basically, this is a curve and they say find the slope of the tangent at the point where x=a, but that point could be anywhere on the entire curve.

Don't worry, I didn't misread the question. There isn't any info lingering elsewhere. A is not defined anywhere in the problem.

So my question is... what gives? Am I missing something here?

Thank you so much for any help,

Peacemaster
 
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peacemaster said:

Homework Statement



The question in it's complete wording:

Consider the following curve.
y = 8 + 5x2 - 2x3.
Better notation: y= 8+ 5x^2- 2x^3. Even better is to use "LaTex": y= 8+ 5x^2- 2x^3

Find the slope of the tangent to the curve at the point where x = a.


Homework Equations



(y2-y1)/(x2-x1) where x2=x1+dx and the limit of dx is approaching zero and y2=f(x+dx).

The Attempt at a Solution



Well, this is the really hard part because they don't tell you what a is. Basically, this is a curve and they say find the slope of the tangent at point a, but point a could be anywhere on the entire curve.

Don't worry, I didn't misread the question. There isn't any info lingering elsewhere. A is not defined anywhere in the problem.

So my question is... what gives? Am I missing something here?

Thank you so much for any help,

Peacemaster
You have written two contradictory things. You say "at the point where x = a" and then, later, "find the slope of the tangent at point a". Is "a" a number or a point?

If a is a number, "x= a", then I don't see what the difficulty is. If the problem had said "at the point where x= 0" or "at the point where x= 2" what would you have done? Whatever you do with "0" or "2", do the same with "a".
 
Wow, good catch. I didn't realize the contradiction. The way I stated the problem is all the info given to me by the question.

The problem asks to find the slope of the tangent at the point where x=a. A is an x value, not a point. The problem does not tell me what a is.

I will edit the original post to reflect the clarification.

What would you do with the problem the way I originally posted it?

Thanks,

Peacemaster
 
peacemaster said:
Wow, good catch. I didn't realize the contradiction. The way I stated the problem is all the info given to me by the question.

The problem asks to find the slope of the tangent at the point where x=a. A is an x value, not a point. The problem does not tell me what a is.

I will edit the original post to reflect the clarification.

What would you do with the problem the way I originally posted it?

Thanks,

Peacemaster

You can treat a as any number. As HallsofIvy has already pointed out.

HallsofIvy said:
If the problem had said "at the point where x= 0" or "at the point where x= 2" what would you have done? Whatever you do with "0" or "2", do the same with "a".

a can be 0, 2, 3, or 1/3, blah blah blah. It does not matter, you just think of a as some number that you don't know, or maybe don't need to know.
 

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