Veterans Day: Should We Move It To Another Date?

[LightningInAJar]

What would it take to move Veterans Day to a different date? Most military holidays are in the summer months?

 

[Bystander]

A time machine.

 

[berkeman]

What would it take to move Veterans Day to a different date? Most military holidays are in the summer months?

https://abc7news.com/veterans-day-2021-when-is-federal-holiday-november-8/11220603/

 

[LightningInAJar]

It wasn't always on the 11th and it wasn't always Veterans day.

 

[pinball1970]

It wasn't always on the 11th and it wasn't always Veterans day.

You know about Armistice Day?

The ceasefire (Great war) agreement with Germany at Compiégne, France, at 11:00 a.m. on November 11, 1918, bringing the war ( now known as World War 1) to an end.
A few things happened after (WW2, Korea, Suez, Falklands, Bosnia and the gulf wars) so in the UK at least we remember the dead from all those conflicts on remembrance Sunday. This is the Sunday closest to 11th November
An agreement was struck up between the Australian government and ours to make Armistice day remembrance Day to combine WW1 and WW2.
America could be different as you have Vietnam so there could be something for that but if so that would have come many decades after.

 

[Astronuc]

What would it take to move Veterans Day to a different date?

Why?

Most military holidays are in the summer months?

So?

The ceasefire (Great war) agreement with Germany at Compiégne, France, at 11:00 a.m. on November 11, 1918, bringing the war ( now known as World War 1) to an end.
A few things happened after (WW2, Korea, Suez, Falklands, Bosnia and the gulf wars) so in the UK at least we remember the dead from all those conflicts on remembrance Sunday. This is the Sunday closest to 11th November
An agreement was struck up between the Australian government and ours to make Armistice day remembrance Day to combine WW1 and WW2.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remembrance_Day
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armistice_Day became Veterans Day in US
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veterans_Day (see the section on history)

The US also has a separate Memorial Day - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memorial_Day - "a federal holiday in the United States for mourning the U.S. military personnel who have died while serving in the United States armed forces. It is observed on the last Monday of May. It was formerly observed on May 30 from 1868 to 1970."

Australia and New Zealand have a separate ANZAC Day - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anzac_Day - "Observed on 25 April each year, Anzac Day was originally devised to honour the members of the Australian and New Zealand Army Corps (ANZAC) who served in the Gallipoli Campaign, their first engagement in the First World War (1914–1918)."

 

[Mark44]

Most military holidays are in the summer months?

What military holidays are you talking about?
June? None that I can think of.
July? There's July 4, but that's not a military holiday.
August? VJ Day? (Victory over Japan, 1945) As far as I know, that's not a recognized holiday.
September? None that come to mind.

 

[BWV]

Before the 20th century, military campaigns outside of summer were rare, so chances were your great national victory over your enemy’s evil hordes happened in the summer

 

[BWV]

The US also has a separate Memorial Day - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memorial_Day - "a federal holiday in the United States for mourning the U.S. military personnel who have died while serving in the United States armed forces. It is observed on the last Monday of May. It was formerly observed on May 30 from 1868 to 1970."

And Memorial Day grew out of Decoration Day, which commemorated those lost in the US Civil War

And the ACW may have been the first organized burial and commemoration of war dead - the UK, for example, did not have a method for burying and tracking causalities until a year or so into WW1 - Wellington famously called his soldiers the 'scum of the earth' with the dead common soldiers anonymously dumped into pits after the Battle of Waterloo

 

[Astronuc]

Before the 20th century, military campaigns outside of summer were rare, so chances were your great national victory over your enemy’s evil hordes happened in the summer

That maybe generally true, however, the Seven Years War concluded in January 1763, although most of the fighting had concluded, there were still local battles:

30 November, 1762 - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Cassel_(1762)
29 October, 1762 - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Freiberg
5 October, 1762 - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Vila_Velha

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battles_of_the_Seven_Years'_War
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_Years'_War

Treaty of Paris, 10 February 1763 - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Paris_(1763)
Treaty of Hubertusburg, 15 February 1763 - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Hubertusburg

The Seven Years War was preceded by The War of Austrian Succession
16 December 1740 – 18 October 1748
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_of_the_Austrian_Succession

Other regional conflicts related to the War of the Austrian Succession
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_of_the_Austrian_Succession#Related_wars

• First Silesian War (1740–1742) – Prussian invasion and ensuing Central European theatre of the war
• Second Silesian War (1744–1745) – Renewed Prussian invasion and continuation of First Silesian War
• First Carnatic War – Anglo-French rivalry in India often seen as a theatre of the War of the Austrian Succession.
• Russo-Swedish War (1741–1743) – Swedish and Russian participation in the War of the Austrian Succession.
• King George's War – American participation in the War of the Austrian Succession.
• War of Jenkins' Ear – Anglo-Spanish war which merged into the War of the Austrian Succession.
• Jacobite rising of 1745 – France provided limited support to Charles Edward Stuart's invasion of Great Britain.

The 1748 Treaty of Aix-la-Chapelle, sometimes called the Treaty of Aachen, ended the War of the Austrian Succession, following a congress assembled on 24 April 1748 at the Free Imperial City of Aachen.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Aix-la-Chapelle_(1748)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wars:_1500–1799
It almost prompts one to ask, when were the European states not at war?

I think prior to the mid or late 1800s, combatants who were not officers were not memorialized individually. Maybe that changed late 1800s or not until WWI?