Video help - Fully Expand and Animorphic aspect ratios?

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The discussion revolves around the concepts of aspect ratios in video formats, specifically focusing on the terms "Fully Expand" and "Anamorphic" in relation to widescreen and standard formats. Participants explore the implications of these settings for viewing content originally produced in different aspect ratios, particularly in the context of converting older TV shows to digital formats.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks clarification on the meanings of "Fully Expand" and "Anamorphic" settings for aspect ratios in video playback.
  • Another participant explains that anamorphic refers to a method where a widescreen movie is compressed into a 4:3 format but can be expanded back to widescreen with appropriate equipment.
  • A participant questions whether anamorphic is synonymous with letterboxing, suggesting confusion between the two concepts.
  • Another participant clarifies that letterboxing preserves the original aspect ratio by adding black bars, while anamorphic allows for less black bar usage and maintains the ability to expand the image without loss.
  • One participant reflects on their understanding of letterboxing and anamorphic formats, noting that letterboxing wastes resolution on black bars, while anamorphic uses less space for black bars.
  • A later reply provides a detailed explanation of letterboxing, contrasting it with anamorphic presentation and discussing the technical aspects of both methods.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the relationship between anamorphic and letterboxing, with some asserting they are distinct while others suggest they may overlap in function. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the precise definitions and implications of the terms.

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There are limitations in the discussion regarding the technical definitions of "Fully Expand" and the specific conditions under which anamorphic and letterbox formats are used. Some assumptions about the viewer's familiarity with video formats may also affect understanding.

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Video help -- Fully Expand and Animorphic aspect ratios?

I converted a lot off my DVDs that are of 1970's TV show Land Of The Lost to avi files so I can watch them on my pc.

There is one setting for Aspec Ratio I do not get I know if I pick 16:9 this is for Wide Screen.
And I know if I pick 4:3 this is for None Wide Screen Standard TV.

What is the optin Fully Expand and what is the option Animorphic for?

Please tell me in your own words and not a link I have been all over and I think if you just tell me what the two option do Fully Expand and Animorphic I will understand.

Thanks for the help.
 
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If Anamorphic makes a Wide Screen Movie to be played on a 4:3 TV then is this not LetterBox??
 


biferi said:
If Anamorphic makes a Wide Screen Movie to be played on a 4:3 TV then is this not LetterBox??

No, letterboxing is the practice of transferring film shot in a widescreen aspect ratio to standard-width video formats while preserving the film's original aspect ratio. (wikipedia)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Letterbox

animorphic can still be expanded into a wide screen with no loss whereas letterbox has been reduced to fit 4:3 forever.
 


Ok I looked up Anamorphic and Widescreen and I think I get it.

When they Letterbox a Widescreen Movie the Black Bars keep the 16:9 Ratio so it will fit on a 4:3 screen I get this.

And if I understand a lot of the Resolotion is wastet on the Black Bars.

But when they put a Widescreen movie in Anamorphic it still let's you show it on a 4:3 screen but they use less Black Bars or where am I getting lost?
 


The Letterboxing link to wikipedia really describes it well:

Letterboxing is used as an alternative to a full-screen, pan-and-scan transfer of a widescreen film image to videotape or videodisc. In pan-and-scan transfers, the original image is cropped to the narrower aspect ratio of the destination format, usually the 1.33:1 (4:3) ratio of the standard television screen, whereas letterboxing preserves the film's original image composition as seen in the cinema. Letterboxing was developed for use in 4:3 television displays before widescreen television screens were available, but it is also necessary to represent on a 16:9 widescreen display the unaltered original composition of a film with a wider aspect ratio, such as Panavision's 2.35:1 ratio.

Letterbox mattes are usually symmetrical (both the top and bottom mattes are roughly similar in size), but in some instances the picture can be elevated so the bottom matte is much larger, usually for the purpose of placing "hard" subtitles within the matte to avoid overlapping of the image. This was often done for letterbox widescreen anime on VHS, though the practice of "hiding" subtitles within the lower matte also is done with symmetrical mattes, albeit with less space available. The placing of "soft" subtitles within the picture or matte varies according to the DVD player being used,[1] though it appears to be dependent on the movie for Blu-ray disc.[2]

An alternative to letterboxing is anamorphic widescreen presentation, which squeezes the picture horizontally to fit into a narrower aspect ratio. The player or receiver must correct this distortion by either stretching the image back to its original relative width, for display on widescreen televisions, or letterboxing it (during playback) for display on 4:3 video screens. This image transformation generally requires digital signal processing, so letterboxing was the only way in which films were presented in widescreen on home video prior to the DVD format (with a few exceptions outside the mass market, such as Squeeze LD). Anamorphic widescreen video recordings are sometimes called "anamorphically enhanced", in comparison to letterboxed versions. To represent a film wider than 16:9 (e.g., a 2.35:1 film) on a 16:9 display with no cropping, both anamorphic and letterbox techniques (or letterboxing alone) are required; using the anamorphic technique, the mattes will be smaller but still necessary.
 

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