Violation of the laws of quantum physics?

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The discussion revolves around the calculation of the expectation value for an electron described by a superposition of two energy states in quantum mechanics. Participants are exploring the implications of this state and whether it adheres to the principles of quantum physics.

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  • Participants discuss the method of calculating for the superposition of states and question whether it is valid to treat the states separately. There is also inquiry into the nature of energy measurements in this context and the normalization of the wave function.

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The conversation is active, with participants providing insights into the calculation of and the properties of quantum states. Some guidance has been offered regarding the calculation method and the nature of energy measurements, though multiple interpretations are being explored.

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There is mention of an exam problem related to this topic, indicating that the discussion is grounded in academic context. Participants are also referencing textbook material, suggesting a reliance on established quantum mechanics principles.

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If I want to calculate <x> of an electron that is in a state described by [tex]\psi (x,t)=\frac{1}{\sqrt{2}}[\psi_{0}(x,t) + \psi_{1}(x,t)]][/tex] where [tex]\psi_{0}[/tex] and [tex]\psi_{1}[/tex] are the two lowest energy states of an electron in a one dimensional box, can I then simply calculate <x> for [tex]\frac{1}{\sqrt{2}}\psi_{0}[/tex] and [tex]\frac{1}{\sqrt{2}}\psi_{1}[/tex] alone and add them?

Is it even possible for an electron to have this energy? Doesn't it violate the laws of quantum physics? I find it strange that this was an exam problem in quantum physics at my university recently.
 
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You know, what <x> means?
It is [tex]\langle x\rangle=\frac12\int_{-\infty}^{\infty}dx x (\psi_0^2+\psi_1^2+2\psi_0\psi_1)[/tex].
Indeed, [tex]\int_{-\infty}^{\infty}dx 2\psi_0\psi_1=0[/tex]
but [tex]\int_{-\infty}^{\infty}dx 2x\psi_0\psi_1\neq0[/tex].
So you can't calculate <x> for $\psi_0$ and $\psi_1$ separately.
Sure, it's a legal state in quantum physics.

http://www.shareapic.net/content.php?id=12668640&owner=dabi
 
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The energy must still be either E0 or E1, right?
 
If you measure the energy, you will find either E0 or E1. And that is the special property of quantum mechanics, that the probability is for either case 50%.
http://www.shareapic.net/content.php?id=12668333&owner=dabi
 
But it's not possible to measure E with certainty, right?

And the [tex]\frac{1}{\sqrt{2}}[/tex] is there just to normalise the probability function?
 
Given your other post about <p>, first read your textbook!
 

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