Visualizing Series Bandpass Filters: A Graphical Approach

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The discussion focuses on the graphical representation of series bandpass filters and the relevant equations involving complex impedance. It highlights the importance of understanding complex number arithmetic and circuit analysis to accurately plot theoretical values of Vout/Vin. The equation for the complex impedance of an RLC series circuit is provided, emphasizing the minimum impedance condition. Measurement discrepancies may arise due to the influence of equipment on the circuit, necessitating careful verification of component values. Familiarity with voltage dividers and related concepts is deemed essential for effective analysis.
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I am plotting Vout/Vin against frequency for a RLC series bandpass filter, where Vout is across the resistor. The resulting graph has max Vout/Vin of about 1.5, the max is supposed to be 1 in a bandpass filter. The Vout/Vin values are experimental, could a max Vout/Vin of 1.5 occur in an experiment? And what could be the reason for this?
Relevant Equations
Vin/Vout = R / (R+wL -1/wc) , where w = omega
this is the circuit
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this is the theoretical graph

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Hi,

Your relevant equation is an equation with complex quantities on both sides.
(I think you switched in and out subscripts ?)

What you measure is most likely the real ratio of two amplitudes. As plotted in the theoretical graph.
For the complex impedance of the RLC series we have $$Z^2 = R^2 + \left (\omega L - {1\over \omega C}\right )^2 $$ with a minimum ##Z=R## (and ##V_{out}/V_{in}=1## ).

A measured ratio can deviate if the measurement equipment influences the circuit. So you have to check values of components and equipment.

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So what equation could you use to plot theoretical values of Vout / Vin ?
 
so_gr_lo said:
So what equation could you use to plot theoretical values of Vout / Vin ?
Are you familiar with complex number arithmetic? With the representation of impedance using complex numbers? I think that is necessary to understand this without a tremendous amount of work.

Do you know about simple circuit analysis, like voltage dividers?

This is important information for us to know to help appropriately.
 
Khan Academy has some really good tutorials on these subjects.
 
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