Visualizing Series Bandpass Filters: A Graphical Approach

AI Thread Summary
The discussion focuses on the graphical representation of series bandpass filters and the relevant equations involving complex impedance. It highlights the importance of understanding complex number arithmetic and circuit analysis to accurately plot theoretical values of Vout/Vin. The equation for the complex impedance of an RLC series circuit is provided, emphasizing the minimum impedance condition. Measurement discrepancies may arise due to the influence of equipment on the circuit, necessitating careful verification of component values. Familiarity with voltage dividers and related concepts is deemed essential for effective analysis.
so_gr_lo
Messages
69
Reaction score
10
Homework Statement
I am plotting Vout/Vin against frequency for a RLC series bandpass filter, where Vout is across the resistor. The resulting graph has max Vout/Vin of about 1.5, the max is supposed to be 1 in a bandpass filter. The Vout/Vin values are experimental, could a max Vout/Vin of 1.5 occur in an experiment? And what could be the reason for this?
Relevant Equations
Vin/Vout = R / (R+wL -1/wc) , where w = omega
this is the circuit
1648543482474.png


this is the theoretical graph

1648543876109.png
 
Physics news on Phys.org
Hi,

Your relevant equation is an equation with complex quantities on both sides.
(I think you switched in and out subscripts ?)

What you measure is most likely the real ratio of two amplitudes. As plotted in the theoretical graph.
For the complex impedance of the RLC series we have $$Z^2 = R^2 + \left (\omega L - {1\over \omega C}\right )^2 $$ with a minimum ##Z=R## (and ##V_{out}/V_{in}=1## ).

A measured ratio can deviate if the measurement equipment influences the circuit. So you have to check values of components and equipment.

##\ ##
 
So what equation could you use to plot theoretical values of Vout / Vin ?
 
so_gr_lo said:
So what equation could you use to plot theoretical values of Vout / Vin ?
Are you familiar with complex number arithmetic? With the representation of impedance using complex numbers? I think that is necessary to understand this without a tremendous amount of work.

Do you know about simple circuit analysis, like voltage dividers?

This is important information for us to know to help appropriately.
 
Khan Academy has some really good tutorials on these subjects.
 
Thread 'Variable mass system : water sprayed into a moving container'
Starting with the mass considerations #m(t)# is mass of water #M_{c}# mass of container and #M(t)# mass of total system $$M(t) = M_{C} + m(t)$$ $$\Rightarrow \frac{dM(t)}{dt} = \frac{dm(t)}{dt}$$ $$P_i = Mv + u \, dm$$ $$P_f = (M + dm)(v + dv)$$ $$\Delta P = M \, dv + (v - u) \, dm$$ $$F = \frac{dP}{dt} = M \frac{dv}{dt} + (v - u) \frac{dm}{dt}$$ $$F = u \frac{dm}{dt} = \rho A u^2$$ from conservation of momentum , the cannon recoils with the same force which it applies. $$\quad \frac{dm}{dt}...
TL;DR Summary: I came across this question from a Sri Lankan A-level textbook. Question - An ice cube with a length of 10 cm is immersed in water at 0 °C. An observer observes the ice cube from the water, and it seems to be 7.75 cm long. If the refractive index of water is 4/3, find the height of the ice cube immersed in the water. I could not understand how the apparent height of the ice cube in the water depends on the height of the ice cube immersed in the water. Does anyone have an...
Back
Top