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The discussion centers on the discovery of water on Saturn's moon Enceladus and its implications for the potential existence of life beyond Earth. Participants explore various aspects of astrobiology, including the conditions necessary for life, the significance of liquid water, and the prospects for future exploration of other celestial bodies within our solar system.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that the discovery of geysers on Enceladus is a significant finding that could indicate the presence of life.
  • There is speculation about the possibility of life existing on other moons orbiting gas giants, with some participants mentioning the large moons of Jupiter as candidates.
  • One participant references a video discussing the conditions necessary for life, including the need for planets to be within a specific habitable zone around their stars.
  • Another participant expresses a belief in the potential for life with alternative biochemistries, suggesting that ammonia-based life forms could theoretically exist on Jupiter.
  • Concerns are raised about the impact of budget cuts on NASA's astrobiology program, which may hinder future exploration and discoveries related to extraterrestrial life.
  • Some participants emphasize the importance of liquid water as a key factor in the search for life, while also acknowledging the existence of extremophiles that challenge traditional notions of habitable environments.

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Participants express a range of views regarding the potential for life beyond Earth, with no consensus reached on specific conditions or locations where life might exist. The discussion remains open-ended, with various hypotheses and speculations presented.

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Some claims rely on assumptions about the conditions necessary for life, and there are references to ongoing debates in astrobiology regarding the viability of different life forms and environments. The discussion also touches on the implications of funding and resource allocation for future research.

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http://www.cnn.com/2006/TECH/space/03/09/cassini.enceladus/
(CNN) -- The Cassini space probe has found evidence of geysers erupting from underground pools of liquid water on Saturn's moon Enceladus, scientists announced on Thursday.
This probably one of the most important discoveries in space exploration.
I wonder if there is other life within somewhere in our solar system.If there is then wouldn't be on the other inner planets.I wonder if it's possible that there could a moon orbiting a gas giant that we don't know about that has life on it.
 
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scott1 said:
This probably one of the most important discoveries in space exploration.
I wonder if there is other life within somewhere in our solar system.If there is then wouldn't be on the other inner planets.I wonder if it's possible that there could a moon orbiting a gas giant that we don't know about that has life on it.

It’s certainly a possibility, and that’s why scientists are itching to get space probes landing on these ice covered moons. Unfortunately discoveries of such kind, and our knowledge of the terrain of these worlds is being pushed back at least another decade, due to the cancellation of the Europa mission.

Enceladus is a tiny planet, with a diameter of only 498 km, http://photojournal.jpl.nasa.gov/jpeg/PIA07724.jpg" a picture comparing it to the UK.
 
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according to a video on the evolution of life on Earth I have seen, planets need to be inside a special ring around their star that limits radiation, but still provides enough warmth to heat the planet. These same scientist also believe that the star needs to be of equivalent size to our sun, and the planet needs to be of equivalent size of the Earth and Mars.

So that means the Andorians don't exist!:cry:

I personally believe that anything is possible, so Life on the moon could exist!
 
The http://www.badastronomy.com/bablog/2006/03/09/a-huge-nasa-announcement-today/" is reporting on a rumor spreading around the internet about a major NASA announcement later on today:

I have been getting email about a potentially "huge" NASA announcement scheduled for 2:00 p.m. today (Eastern) . It was originally broken by a Florida news station (the link may be down due to its getting slammed), but it looks as if this is somewhat overblown.

While Keith at http://www.nasawatch.com/archives/2006/03/will_there_be_a.html" points out the irony of the situation in regards to a 50% cut in astrobiology:

Of course, the sad aspect of this story is with regard to all of this sudden interest and excitement about life in the universe among the media and the general public - interest that seems to be on a hair trigger. Gee, do you think this might be something that people expect - and want - NASA to be doing?. Too bad Mike Griffin and Mary Cleave don't get that message - and want to cut NASA's Astrobiology program - the effort which studies this topic - by 50%
 
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scott1 said:
I wonder if there is other life within somewhere in our solar system.If there is then wouldn't be on the other inner planets.I wonder if it's possible that there could a moon orbiting a gas giant that we don't know about that has life on it.

The best candidates for other places in our solar system with life are some of the large moons of Jupiter which are also suspected to have liquid water below their icy surface (and now I suppose we can add Saturn's moon Enceladus to the list). There's also still hope to find microbial life on Mars below the ground surface (although a slightly higher-probability hope is to find fossil microbes there). Other speculations are out there too...but liquid water seems to provide the best chance.
 
kahless2005 said:
according to a video on the evolution of life on Earth I have seen, planets need to be inside a special ring around their star that limits radiation, but still provides enough warmth to heat the planet. These same scientist also believe that the star needs to be of equivalent size to our sun, and the planet needs to be of equivalent size of the Earth and Mars.
That is what would be needed to have life on earth.Which is carbon-based.It could be possible that life could exist with alternative bio-chemistry and require differn't needs.
I think life exist anywhere with the right chemical rections,there is evoltion.It is theortically "possible" that an ammonia-based life from exist on Jupiter(and highly100,000 unlikely).
You might want to read this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extraterrestrial_life
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astrobiology
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alternative_biochemistry
http://egj.lib.uidaho.edu/egj22/miller1.html
The discovery of extremophiles has changed the previous paradigm that life can only be found on pleasant Earth-like planets. Astrobiologists are now reminding us that life can be found in extreme locations.
 
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