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The discussion revolves around the ground state wave function of a pair of vibrating nuclei, specifically involving carbon and oxygen atoms. The original poster is attempting to compute the vibrational frequency based on the root-mean square fluctuation in bond length, while grappling with unit conversions and calculations related to the reduced mass and angular frequency.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster outlines their calculations for the root-mean square fluctuation and attempts to derive the vibrational frequency. They express uncertainty regarding unit consistency and the correctness of their results.
  • Participants question the accuracy of the reduced mass calculation and suggest breaking down units into base components for clarity.
  • There is a request for clarification on the "root" aspect of the root mean square and its implications for the calculations.

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Participants are actively engaging in clarifying unit conversions and addressing numerical errors. Some guidance has been provided regarding the breakdown of units and the importance of the root mean square definition. Multiple interpretations of the calculations are being explored, particularly concerning the units of angular frequency.

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The original poster is working within the constraints of a homework assignment, which may impose specific requirements on the format and accuracy of their calculations. There is an ongoing discussion about the implications of unit conversions and the definitions of physical quantities involved.

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Homework Statement


The Ground state wave function governing the motion of a pair of vibrating nuclei looks like:

wave function = wave (x) = (a/pi)1/4 e-ax2/2

where a = alpha = mu*w/(h bar), which is determined by mu = reduced mass of the pair
where w = angular vibrational frequency

...So, suppose the vibrating atoms in question were C and O. Compute what v~, the frequency of the vibration in cm-1, would have to be if the root-mean square fluctation in bond length were 0.035Angstom.

I lost track of the units for my solution, and I am not sure if I have done correctly...

Homework Equations


wave function = wave (x) = (a/pi)1/4 e-ax2/2

a = alpha = mu*w/(h bar), which is determined by mu = reduced mass of the pair

w = angular vibrational frequency

root mean square = <x2> - <x>2

The Attempt at a Solution


root mean square = <x2> - <x>2

where <x2> = integral (-infinite to infinite) wave(x) x2 wave(x) dx
= which I got 1/(2a) as a result

<x> = integral (x=o to L) p(x) x p(x) dx which I got as 0 in the end

so...I input:
root mean square = <x2> - <x>2 = 1/(2a) - 0 = 1/(2a)

since
root mean square = 0.035 angstrom = 1/(2a) and b/c a = mu*w/(h bar), I rearranged so that:

w = (h bar)/(0.07mu)...where mu = m1m2/(m1 + m2)

For mass of 1 C atom: 12.01g/(6.022x1023 atoms) x 1kg/103g = 1.99 x 10-26kg

For mass of 1 O atom: 16.00g/(6.022x1023 atoms) x 1kg/103g = 2.66 x 10-26kg

mu = 1.14 x 10-20kg

therefore w = (h/(2pi))1/(0.07mu) = 1.32 x 10-13 omega (is this right?) I know h has units of J*2 and mu = kg...but together they do NOT make omega...

therefore v~ = w/(2pi*c) where c = speed of light = 1.32 x 10-13 (assuming the unit is correct) / (2pi*3x108m/s) = 7.02 x 10-23 s-1

b/c I got lost track of units...I am not sure if the units in the solution is right...if someone could (1) explain the units in each calculations I did and then (2) give me hints as how to keep track of units for near future too, that would be so wonderful.
 
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You made a numerical error in your value of \mu. If your mass for a carbon atom is ~10-26kg and your mass for an oxygen atom is ~10-26kg, there's no way the reduced mass will be ~10-20kg. Fix that first. As for the units, Planck's constant \hbar is in J s (joule-seconds). Maybe breaking this (and everything else) down into base units (kg, m, s) will help. Just a heads up, you also forgot the "root" part of "root mean square."
 
Hello--thanks you for the reply--so, you're right, I miscalculated: μ = 1.14 x 10-26 kg

Also, since,
ℏ = J*s = kg*m2/s2...is omega a right unit for w?

w = (h/(2pi))1/(0.07mu) = 1.32 x 10-7 (J*s)/kg = 1.32 x 10-7 m2/s...? Did I make mistake? It is of acceleration unit, not velocity...
Aside, could you please clarify by what you mean by "root part of the root mean square"? If you could, thanks!
 
You're close with \hbar. Joules are kg*m2/s2 (you can remember this by recalling that joules are a measure of energy and kinetic energy is \frac{1}{2}mv^2), so J*s is kg*m2/s. Also, it's clear that you know that \mu has units of kg, but 0.07 also has units. This comes from the root mean square of distance, which, by the way, is \sqrt{\langle x^2 \rangle - \langle x \rangle ^2 } not just \langle x^2 \rangle - \langle x \rangle ^2 The units of rms distance are the same as the units of plain old distance, which in this case is just angstroms. Hopefully that should get you started.
 

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