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The discussion centers on the behavior of free electrons in a transformer coil when a voltage is applied. Participants explore the relationship between voltage application and electron movement, questioning whether photon flux enters the coil and how the linkage field evolves until reaching a steady state. The Drude model and its extensions, including the Drude-Lorentz and Drude-Sommerfeld models, are highlighted as essential frameworks for understanding these phenomena. The conversation emphasizes the need for clarity in physics concepts related to electromagnetic fields and electron dynamics.

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We know that primary of a transformer is a coil(mono or multilayer) from a conductive material, usually copper, which have a proper lattice.Inside the lattice is a cloud of free electrons .When in circuit, a voltage is applied at the coil heads.

1.When voltage is applied , do we have a corresponding photons flux which enter in through coils section wire and guided through copper internal lattice to other head of wire.?

2.Suppose a free electron is at an arbitrary position in coil wire.Which will be it's movement and changes in characteristic values in an coordinate system attached to coil, follow to moment of voltage application, until we can talk about a current of electrons in wire? How the linkage field of coil evolve for moment of voltage application until steady state ?.
 
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negut constantin said:
We know that primary of a transformer is a coil(mono or multilayer) from a conductive material, usually copper, which have a proper lattice.Inside the lattice is a cloud of free electrons .When in circuit, a voltage is applied at the coil heads.

1.When voltage is applied , do we have a corresponding photons flux which enter in through coils section wire and guided through copper internal lattice to other head of wire.?

2.Suppose a free electron is at an arbitrary position in coil wire.Which will be it's movement and changes in characteristic values in an coordinate system attached to coil, follow to moment of voltage application, until we can talk about a current of electrons in wire? How the linkage field of coil evolve for moment of voltage application until steady state ?.
Welcome to the PF. :smile:

I see from your Profile page that you have a Masters degree and are working on your PhD. What is your field of study?

Are you familiar with the Drude model? At what level have you leaned Maxwell's Equations so far?
 
negut constantin said:
We know that primary of a transformer is a coil(mono or multilayer) from a conductive material, usually copper, which have a proper lattice.Inside the lattice is a cloud of free electrons .When in circuit, a voltage is applied at the coil heads.

1.When voltage is applied , do we have a corresponding photons flux which enter in through coils section wire and guided through copper internal lattice to other head of wire.?

2.Suppose a free electron is at an arbitrary position in coil wire.Which will be it's movement and changes in characteristic values in an coordinate system attached to coil, follow to moment of voltage application, until we can talk about a current of electrons in wire? How the linkage field of coil evolve for moment of voltage application until steady state ?.
berkeman said:
Welcome to the PF. :smile:

I see from your Profile page that you have a Masters degree and are working on your PhD. What is your field of study?

Are you familiar with the Drude model? At what level have you leaned Maxwell's Equations so far?
I have a master in electronics including radio - computer science .Also studied Math-Informatics. Phd Theme is adaptive phased array antenna .But I need to clear with some physics concepts before that(just for myself)I Maxwell equation ,yes.I am ok with many chapter of maths but sloopy with time evolution of experiments and concepts in Physics.I try to have an order with these.There are many concepts in courses without author's names and the generated experiment specification.
I look some papers with Drude model, we study it at very high frequencies technology course, but no mention about "Drude model".And I think that there are more models from beginning of 20 century exposed but no mention about authors.I will follow the line Drude–Lorentz model, Drude-Sommerfeld model and extensions,Hartree-Fock,Kubo,Fermi ,plasmons model ;Thanks !
 
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